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Warning About CSF Radiators

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2001 - 2007 V70
2001 - 2004 V70 XC (Cross Country)
2004 - 2007 XC70 (Cross Country)
2001 - 2009 S60
2003 - 2007 S60 R
2004 - 2007 V70 R

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Re: Warning About CSF Radiators

Post by cn90 »

Has anyone tried the Mahle Behr radiator?
About $210 on eBay etc.
Per eBay seller, it is "made in Germany"...

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Post by scot850 »

That brand is usually good. Is Behr not the OEM?

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Post by cn90 »

I think Valeo is the original supplier.
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Post by volvolugnut »

The issue is not where parts are built, but how they are built. I think nearly every country in the world is now capable of building quality automotive parts if the company plans to build good parts.
Likely wise, if a company in any country wants to build poor quality parts, they will build bad parts.
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Post by abscate »

Make sure all your engine mounts and radiator mounts are good. A few cm sag on the engine mount will strain the upper rad hose and make the side tank leak in just a few years.

Indeed, you cannot buy by either brand, country , or forums.

Fora, onthe other hand, are a verdant oasis of treasured information on quality.
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Post by XC70Rider »

Thanks for the warning on those CSF radiators. My P2 just surpassed 200k miles with the original radiator. I saw someone selling a 2007 XC70 on FB marketplace down in AL last month. He was selling it for parts due to a blown head gasket caused by a broken radiator. It had the original radiator that failed at 265k miles.

My timing belt and PVC cleaning is due at 220k miles so I might throw in a new radiator then.

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Post by erikv11 »

I don't buy auto parts from eBay unless I am highly confident about the seller, which is rare.

At any rate this P2 radiator from Mahle Behr is about the same or less from some trusted retailers e.g. currently $180 plus shipping at AutohausAZ https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/BH-31319056

Too bad FCP isn't selling it ...
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Post by volvolugnut »

I have bought several Volvo and Mercedes parts from Autohausaz. They offer OEM parts and alternate brands so they have a range of pricing. Good online service.
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Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
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Post by scot850 »

I don't generally have any complaints with EBay purchases. No more than Amazon, Ali Express, Temu are all way worse in my mind. Amazon on quality and Temu/Ali Express on quality and deceptive descriptions to trick purchasers in to thinking you are buying one thing and then finding you are buying a lesser item. They then state you bought what they were selling. BS.

FCP and IPD have given me issues too, so no seller (even Volvo) are perfect. Unfortunately buying on-line has it's challenges. Heck, where I used to prefer buying the Blue Box parts because they had better manufacturing tolerances and quality checks done to them, sadly that is no longer the case. Case in point just had Volvo swap out the fuel pump on an 06 S60 AWD after only 3.5 years and 40k miles. Fortunately that was covered by their lifetime warranty.

So, no guarantees on parts any more. All you can do is hope!

Good Luck!

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2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold

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