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MotorolaV3X wrote: 27 Aug 2026, 03:13 Hello dikidera, will it be possible to work with other adapters? sm2pro or dice
For devices for which I do not have physical access, it will be difficult, without USB sniff logs. For DiCE it might be possible, but it will mean that users will have to be guinea pigs.

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dikidera wrote: 27 Aug 2026, 09:34 For devices for which I do not have physical access, it will be difficult, without USB sniff logs. For DiCE it might be possible, but it will mean that users will have to be guinea pigs.
Anybody got an extra DiCE or other interface ? To send to dikidera for further Moose Diag development.
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RickHaleParker wrote: 27 Aug 2026, 13:53
dikidera wrote: 27 Aug 2026, 09:34 For devices for which I do not have physical access, it will be difficult, without USB sniff logs. For DiCE it might be possible, but it will mean that users will have to be guinea pigs.
Anybody got an extra DiCE or other interface ? To send to dikidera for further Moose Diag development.
Actually USB sniff logs would work much better. That is all I need. DiCE unlike other J2534 devices has parallel communication, meaning it likely contains 2 CAN bus transceivers to communicate over HI and LO speed busses at same time. VIDA source code event makes that distinction.

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What do you mean by USB sniff logs? Are you needing someone to use a logic analyzer on the DICE?

I have used an Autel j2534 VCI for VIDA in the past, FYI. So, the driver functions should be well know/ documented. It would communicate on the entire network at once.

Or, do you mean VIDA logs?

I can get logs for you but I don't know about testing. I am sure of your capabilities but I would be giving you logs from reading customer vehicles.

By the way, I am figuring out the P2 XC90 CAN broadcast data.

My DBC is here:

https://github.com/gregoryables/Volvo.P2.XC90.CAN_RE

I'm not done with it yet and there may be errors from the fact that I've not fully identified everything yet *and* I've used a 2008, a 2010 a 2011 *and* a 2013 to identify the signals with. I have eliminated nearly all of the erroneous inclusions because I now have three different 2013 captures to validate against.

However, I have yet to validate the DBC against a known good 2013 XC90. That will be necessary before I consider this to be anything other than a pre-release file.

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67726567 wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 13:28 What do you mean by USB sniff logs? Are you needing someone to use a logic analyzer on the DICE?
A USB sniffer eavesdrops on the USB conservation and records it to a log file.
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dikidera wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 23:52 Actually USB sniff logs would work much better. That is all I need. DiCE unlike other J2534 devices has parallel communication, meaning it likely contains 2 CAN bus transceivers to communicate over HI and LO speed busses at same time. VIDA source code event makes that distinction.
I am working of a Android-DiCE API and SDK. Lets see if I can pull it off. That would open the door for other Android apps to use DiCE.
Intending to do the same for Linux-DiCE.

"VIDA source code" You lucky guy now did you get that? :wink:
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RickHaleParker wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 14:08
67726567 wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 13:28 What do you mean by USB sniff logs? Are you needing someone to use a logic analyzer on the DICE?
A USB sniffer eavesdrops on the USB conservation and records it to a log file.
I am aware of what a USB sniffer is. I also know that English is not dikidera's native language, so I want to be sure.

I have a RotKee USB analyzer and a BusPirate.

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67726567 wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 14:31 I am aware of what a USB sniffer is. I also know that English is not dikidera's native language, so I want to be sure.
Europeans often know English better then some American do.
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RickHaleParker wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 14:41
67726567 wrote: 30 Aug 2026, 14:31 I am aware of what a USB sniffer is. I also know that English is not dikidera's native language, so I want to be sure.
Europeans often know English better then some American do.
Okay. Well... I'll be around.
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dikidera wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 23:52 Actually USB sniff logs would work much better. That is all I need.
Might be able to get what you need from a bench CEM.

- Which operations you want captured.
- Preferred format.

What do you need to know?
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