Non-Volvo car chat megathread
- BlackBart
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- Year and Model: 2004 XC70 BlackBetty
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I have a friend here who loves his 900 turbo's. He always has one. Not a mechanical guy. Wears them out, finds another, I'm not sure where, they all look good.
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ex-1984 245T wagon
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty
- BlackBart
- Posts: 6725
- Joined: 10 Dec 2016, 17:03
- Year and Model: 2004 XC70 BlackBetty
- Location: Over the far far mountains
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I saw this 20 minute guided tour of some just stunning cars at Pebble Beach.
You've got Bugatti Atlantic, Maserati 3500, one-off custom Ferrari show cars, famous race cars.... Ferrari 250MM, 250GT, GTO, etc etc. Fantastic coachwork, with a couple of odd ducks thrown in (I'm looking at you, Vignale-bodied two-tone blue Lancia coupes).
Our tour guide is a bit much, but the cars! What a show.
He briefly passes through the Alfa “BAT” cars - BAT 5, BAT 7, and BAT 9, 1953 to 1955. (Berlinetta Aerodinamica Tecnica).
They were designed by Bertone’s Franco Scaglione to study how to minimize drag as well as show off coach-building skills. No wind tunnel, no computers. He used some of his experience in aeronautics - the fins curve the air around the teardrop cockpit to prevent separation. The teardrop sort of reminds me of a P-38. Pre-dated the Split-Window by 10 years. Makes a sort of venturi at the back for the air to accelerate through. BAT 7 had a Cx of 0.19, unheard of.
So then I looked this up, which is a piece about both the design and technology of the time -
https://www.speedholics.com/post/alfa-r ... ca-tecnica
You've got Bugatti Atlantic, Maserati 3500, one-off custom Ferrari show cars, famous race cars.... Ferrari 250MM, 250GT, GTO, etc etc. Fantastic coachwork, with a couple of odd ducks thrown in (I'm looking at you, Vignale-bodied two-tone blue Lancia coupes).
Our tour guide is a bit much, but the cars! What a show.
He briefly passes through the Alfa “BAT” cars - BAT 5, BAT 7, and BAT 9, 1953 to 1955. (Berlinetta Aerodinamica Tecnica).
They were designed by Bertone’s Franco Scaglione to study how to minimize drag as well as show off coach-building skills. No wind tunnel, no computers. He used some of his experience in aeronautics - the fins curve the air around the teardrop cockpit to prevent separation. The teardrop sort of reminds me of a P-38. Pre-dated the Split-Window by 10 years. Makes a sort of venturi at the back for the air to accelerate through. BAT 7 had a Cx of 0.19, unheard of.
So then I looked this up, which is a piece about both the design and technology of the time -
https://www.speedholics.com/post/alfa-r ... ca-tecnica
ex-1984 245T wagon
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty
- volvolugnut
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- Year and Model: 2001 V70
- Location: Oklahoma USA
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BAT 7 had a Cx of 0.19, unheard of.
That is crazy low.
volvolugnut
That is crazy low.
volvolugnut
The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
John Deere 214 lawn tractor about 1977 model
And others.
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
John Deere 214 lawn tractor about 1977 model
And others.
- BlackBart
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- Year and Model: 2004 XC70 BlackBetty
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I had a real treat this weekend. A friend has an old Porsche 356 coupe. He said you wanna go for a drive up some canyon?
Hell yes!
So we went on a 30 mile loop on some paved roads, rough roads, dirt roads, some freeway.
That is a solid car, no shake or rattle or anything.
So fun.
Hell yes!
So we went on a 30 mile loop on some paved roads, rough roads, dirt roads, some freeway.
That is a solid car, no shake or rattle or anything.
So fun.
ex-1984 245T wagon
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty






