A comparison: P2 S60 vs E46 3-series

Post by **erikv11** » 13 Jul 2022, 09:48

gnalan wrote: 11 Jul 2022, 19:52 I'm surprised with how little leg room there is for backseat passengers. Even with the front seats up it just makes everyone in the car uncomfortable. The rear doors and seats are good for loading/unloading groceries though.

Agree completely, the rear seat area is basically a roomy, padded cargo shelf. There is no room back there for passengers except maybe a baby seat or toddler seat (never tried them).

Post by **matthew1** » 13 Jul 2022, 13:53

I think all modern manufacturers do this to force you into their high-zoot full size cars, if you want to use the backseat for adults.

Thanks 1980s.

Post by **volvolugnut** » 13 Jul 2022, 17:41

Quick survey here:
When was the last time you traveled over 25 miles with 4 adults in a car?
I do not remember, but likely before 2016.
volvolugnut

Post by **gnalan** » 13 Jul 2022, 17:47

Maybe a month or so ago. I was driving with mom in the passenger seat, and my dad and brother in the backseat. Round trip was close to 70 miles.

Post by **erikv11** » 13 Jul 2022, 23:53

Never in the S60, obviously. It's just for me and my wife, or for one of us solo. Until she prevails in the push to sell it!

With three adults pretty frequently, two or three times a month on average with more in the warm months, less in the winter. Most recently was last week, 45 miles each way.

Four adults is less common for us, just a few times a year. Most recently was in mid-June.

Post by **abscate** » 14 Jul 2022, 18:01

volvolugnut wrote: 13 Jul 2022, 17:41 Quick survey here:
When was the last time you traveled over 25 miles with 4 adults in a car?
I do not remember, but likely before 2016.
volvolugnut

Never, I always had at least 6 or 7

Post by **volvolugnut** » 14 Jul 2022, 18:04

abscate wrote: 14 Jul 2022, 18:01
volvolugnut wrote: 13 Jul 2022, 17:41 Quick survey here:
When was the last time you traveled over 25 miles with 4 adults in a car?
I do not remember, but likely before 2016.
volvolugnut
Never, I always had at least 6 or 7

A real clown car?
volvolugnuty

Post by **abscate** » 15 Jul 2022, 04:28

Honey , can you drop the kids off today ??

Faust · Post by **Faust** » 17 Jul 2022, 05:53

gnalan wrote: 11 Jul 2022, 20:09
br0dy519 wrote: 11 Jul 2022, 20:05 Agreed on the rear seat. This thread is making me wish I drove a crown vic for comfort.
With handcuffs on, and the plastic rear seat, they're not very comfortable.

Yes, but the ride is free.

Faust · Post by **Faust** » 17 Jul 2022, 05:59

gnalan wrote: 11 Jul 2022, 18:44 Kids have it too easy these days. Back in my day we had rwd cars that we drove all year long, even in the snow and on ice (uphill both ways). Manual transmission, manual locks, hand crank windows, and only the seat belt as perfection. No ABS, no airbags, no backup cameras, sometimes not even a side mirror on the passenger side of the car. Once you learn how to drive a car like that you can drive anything, in any weather, and feel safe and confident.

Just my 2 cents.

Yes, that is why I knew enough to throw a couple of sandbags in the trunk of the BMW referenced above.