Agree completely, the rear seat area is basically a roomy, padded cargo shelf. There is no room back there for passengers except maybe a baby seat or toddler seat (never tried them).
A comparison: P2 S60 vs E46 3-series
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Re: A comparison: P2 S60 vs E46 3-series
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I think all modern manufacturers do this to force you into their high-zoot full size cars, if you want to use the backseat for adults.
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- volvolugnut
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Quick survey here:
When was the last time you traveled over 25 miles with 4 adults in a car?
I do not remember, but likely before 2016.
volvolugnut
When was the last time you traveled over 25 miles with 4 adults in a car?
I do not remember, but likely before 2016.
volvolugnut
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2009 Smart Passion
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And others.
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
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2009 Smart Passion
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Maybe a month or so ago. I was driving with mom in the passenger seat, and my dad and brother in the backseat. Round trip was close to 70 miles.
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Never in the S60, obviously. It's just for me and my wife, or for one of us solo. Until she prevails in the push to sell it!
With three adults pretty frequently, two or three times a month on average with more in the warm months, less in the winter. Most recently was last week, 45 miles each way.
Four adults is less common for us, just a few times a year. Most recently was in mid-June.
With three adults pretty frequently, two or three times a month on average with more in the warm months, less in the winter. Most recently was last week, 45 miles each way.
Four adults is less common for us, just a few times a year. Most recently was in mid-June.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
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Never, I always had at least 6 or 7volvolugnut wrote: ↑13 Jul 2022, 17:41 Quick survey here:
When was the last time you traveled over 25 miles with 4 adults in a car?
I do not remember, but likely before 2016.
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A real clown car?abscate wrote: ↑14 Jul 2022, 18:01Never, I always had at least 6 or 7volvolugnut wrote: ↑13 Jul 2022, 17:41 Quick survey here:
When was the last time you traveled over 25 miles with 4 adults in a car?
I do not remember, but likely before 2016.
volvolugnut
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The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
And others.
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
And others.
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Yes, that is why I knew enough to throw a couple of sandbags in the trunk of the BMW referenced above.gnalan wrote: ↑11 Jul 2022, 18:44 Kids have it too easy these days. Back in my day we had rwd cars that we drove all year long, even in the snow and on ice (uphill both ways). Manual transmission, manual locks, hand crank windows, and only the seat belt as perfection. No ABS, no airbags, no backup cameras, sometimes not even a side mirror on the passenger side of the car. Once you learn how to drive a car like that you can drive anything, in any weather, and feel safe and confident.
Just my 2 cents.
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