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Spare tires after 20 years

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Re: Spare tires after 20 years

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I bought a set of 'NEW' tires from an on-line retailer I had not used before. Tires arrived with a 4 year old date code on them!! I contacted them and said I wanted to return them and get new tires not old stock. They refused and said that they are allowed to sell tires as 'NEW' up to 5 years old according to US tire laws. I asked them what US laws have to do with tires sold in Canada where we are advised to replace tires at 7 years old!! They are based in Quebec, so apparently Canadian laws don't count..............!

Their argument was that the tires were stored in the dark in a warehouse. What they clearly don't understand is tire rubber continues to harden from the moment the tire is removed from the mold. This process can continue up to 10 years or more. That means the grip of your tires reduces from the moment they were manufactured. Those who do huge mileages are usually not concerned about this as they wear the tires out before it is an issue. Here where I live most sane people have winter and summer tires (we call all season). Those then get used only 6 months of the year, so the danger is they rot out before they wear out. In my case that is definitely the case! :lol: :lol:

I got rid of a set of 10 year old winter tires 2 years ago. 3 tires were fine, but one had a slow leak I was not aware of. That leak meant the tire ran low and the sidewall of that tire started to split.

I have never thought about the donut spare tire in the 'R' or the XC. Both are the originals. I should consider swapping them out for safety!

The Toyota tire and rim were swapped when bought as the spare was totally rotten as it is mounted under the car, to the point there was a split in the side!

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Post by Roger_850T »

I recently had to deal with this. I discovered that the limited use spare in the trunk of my '95 850T Sedan had at some point blown up - the rubber was entirely torn and ripped open. I have no idea when this happened, although probably within the last 1-2 years, and probably shortly after the last time I set it to the correct pressure, whenever that was.

I understood that a full size spare would fit in the 850 trunk, so I bought a full size tire to match the rest (205/50R16) plus a new steel wheel for it. Well, it doesn't fit. I took out the plastic liner, which helped, but it's too wide. I can get the tire in there, but the trunk carpet does not sit flush, it's ~1-2 cm raised in the middle.

Tire Rack has replacements for the Limited Use Spare - I've thought about getting one hand having it mounted on the original Limited Use Spare wheel. However since I do have a functioning spare, it's no longer an urgent need, so I haven't done this yet.

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Post by abscate »

Roger

I’ve been accumulating these spares if you can be patient I can get one down to you by “ Milgram Shipping”
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Post by scot850 »

I tried looking up retailers for the spare tire and could not find any for sale in Canada, and none showed up in the US including Tire-rack.

I am dropping our son's car off at the dealer tomorrow so will ask if they have access to this tire.

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Post by foggydogg »

Roger_850T wrote: 30 Oct 2022, 16:29 I recently had to deal with this. I discovered that the limited use spare in the trunk of my '95 850T Sedan had at some point blown up - the rubber was entirely torn and ripped open. I have no idea when this happened, although probably within the last 1-2 years, and probably shortly after the last time I set it to the correct pressure, whenever that was.

I understood that a full size spare would fit in the 850 trunk, so I bought a full size tire to match the rest (205/50R16) plus a new steel wheel for it. Well, it doesn't fit. I took out the plastic liner, which helped, but it's too wide. I can get the tire in there, but the trunk carpet does not sit flush, it's ~1-2 cm raised in the middle.

Roger
While I have not done the experiment, it could be that the 15" would fit - which of course won't help you. A V70 came to me with a full size spare, and it did lay flat in the wagon well.
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Post by foggydogg »

Can't remember which car this came in, but note the new tire nubs.
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Post by scot850 »

Eek!! Only 20 year old spare tire I am still using is around my waist!! :o :lol: :lol:

Neil.
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Post by BlackBart »

foggydogg wrote: 31 Oct 2022, 14:10 Can't remember which car this came in, but note the new tire nubs.
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Yep, that's what mine is doing - just splitting.
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Post by FireFox31 »

Public service announcement: Whatever you do with your spare, inflate it to the correct pressure. Check that pressure twice a year at least.

My doughnut spare is a Continental CST 17 (just like the 2013 XC70 in my other thread). Yes, it's over 20 years old with a three digit date code of "229", showing a May 1999 manufacture date. Upon examination, it looks solid with no cracking or splitting. I inflated it from 22 psi to the mandatory 60 psi.

I'll try fitting one of my 16" wheels in the spare well to see if I can keep a full size spare to match my set.
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Post by BlackBart »

This made me go dig mine out of the 850 trunk. This car isn't used so I haven't replaced it.

Firestone "Made in France." What does this date code mean, 184? The car's a '94 and it could be original.

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