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asimba2's 850 Turbo thread

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

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asimba2
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Year and Model: 850 Turbo, 1995
Location: Northern California

Re: asimba2's 850 Turbo thread

Post by asimba2 »

I completed the PCV system replacement, cleaned the EGR and did some engine bay cleanup while I was in there. The job was pretty straight forward, thanks to Justin's write up.

At its most torn-down point:
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In reassembly I learned some important lessons. First, if your car has EGR like mine does, I highly recommend hanging the exhaust manifold back on its studs and ensuring the EGR is connected with the flare nut at least snugged before you even bother with the hard-to-reach dipstick and manifold bolts you must access below the car. I fought with those only to realize later the EGR plumbing was misaligned. I found it easier to start the dipstick and manifold bolts from up top, by hand first, then go under the car and tighten them with two long extensions, one short extension, a wobble joint (not a u-joint) and the 12mm socket.
Second lesson, a lot of people reported having trouble with the three top manifold bolts that connect to the head. The common complaint was dropping the bolts into the abyss, only to have to remove the manifold and start over. I recommend use of one long extension, a wobble joint, and the 10 mm socket with a tiny bit of blue painter's tape to keep from dropping the bolt. Once it's threaded in, you can pull loose the socket/extension, the bolt will stay in place and you can remove the tape.

The intake ports and valves were perfectly clean on cylinders 2, 3 and 4. Cylinder 5 had clean valves but a bit of oil build up on the intake runner wall. Cylinder 1 was a little dirty, with oil build up on the intake runner wall and some on the valve as well. I think this is common as PCV oil follows engine vacuum and along the path of least resistance, right into the first cylinder. Hopefully some seafoam will clean it up.

Here's how clean cyls 2, 3 and 4 were:
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Long story short, I got the whole thing put back together and after a drive pushing some turbo boost, I found oil sprayed all over the engine block and leaking under the car. I pulled it back apart and found the non-OEM Volvo oil trap was not sealed and therefore crankcase pressure + boost was spraying oil.
Here is the failed oil trap and resulting mess after 4 miles:
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I had spec'd OEM Volvo hoses, but didn't think there would be a difference between the Volvo oil trap and the aftermarket one. Wrong! After re-doing the job all over again with an OEM oil trap from my local Volvo dealership (and after cleaning up a huge oil mess), here is the new oil trap in its final resting spot:
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All back together and running like a champ.
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Another maintenance item checked off the list.

SpeedyPete
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Post by SpeedyPete »

Hi Asimba: A job well done! Have you considered custom sheepskin seat covers? I have had mine since I bought my car new in 1998. They are wonderful. Warm in the winter, (no need for seat heaters at all even in the snow) cool in the summer. Also they work very well at muffling your Farts! :lol: Best Regards, SpeedyPete

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Post by fazool »

Very nicely done. Its really satisfying to bring a neglected car back to tip top shape like that.

Your dash lights are all very nice and clean - are they all white LED's ?

They don't look like the standard blecch-green.

2007 S60 2.5T AWD (Daily Driver)
2001 S60 2.4T (Daughter's Car)
2003 S80 2.9 (Son's Car)
1995 850 2.4 (Daughter's Car - sold off)
2005 S40 2.4i (Bought new - since sold)
1986 740GLE 2.3(First Volvo - sold off)

asimba2
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Year and Model: 850 Turbo, 1995
Location: Northern California

Post by asimba2 »

Thanks! For the dash lights I simply pulled a bunch from a car at my local wrecking yard. For the switches I used new bulbs from Radio Shack. They were (I think) two for $1 rather than $6 each at Volvo. They are standard white incandescent, not LED. It's probably the camera exposure that is making them look a different color.

As for the seats, I don't want them to get any worse or the padding will start breaking down too. For that reason I will repair or replace the leather. People on this forum have had good luck with Leather Magic, so I will give it a try on the passenger's seat. For the driver's seat I will probably buy new leather skins as suggested earlier in this thread.

Since last time I posted here the car passed the California smog check (something it couldn't do when I initially purchased it), and this weekend I changed the oil and filter and started running synthetic oil and did a tire rotation. I did a second transmission fluid drain and refill, so the trans should be in good shape without running the risk of a power flush that tends to cause problems on older cars.

Beyond the seat leather repair I'm going to need to replace the passenger's side CV boots and a cooling system flush. While I'm replacing fluids, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to bleed the brakes with fresh fluid. That's pretty much it for now. It's a good running little car.

midimykeys
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Post by midimykeys »

That is one good looking 850! I just purchased mine with 88k for $1,000, and my repairs have been primarily cosmetic (2 doors, fender, mats, speaker grills, etc.) I was wondering if your 850 had the notorious pink carpet syndrome. If so, I've found a cure, and it's great. How many miles are on it?
2001 S80 2.9
2001 S60T
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1985 240 DL

asimba2
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Post by asimba2 »

"Pink carpet syndrome," haha, that does in fact sound like a disease. Mine isn't pink but it's probably not the original color either. I am curious to hear your experience with restoring the color.

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Post by steve850 »

Nice. This is inspiring me to restore my 96 Platinum Edition. I have bigger issues, possibly rings and a turbo. It needs full front struts and springs (this car has over 225k on it) but the interior leather is 95% perfect and the thing drives great. If i decide to do it, it will be a long process, and probably cost twice the value of the car, but hey, who said we were in this for the money?
Steve in Montreal

2010 XC70 3.2 N/A
04 XC70 2.5T
96 850 Platinum

asimba2
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Post by asimba2 »

There are a lot of cars out there not worth putting time or money into. This particular car does not fall into that category. These cars (in my opinion) do require more maintenance than Japanese cars, but they are well engineered and last a long time. It's a car you actually want to drive too.

midimykeys--I bought it with 129k on it and now it's at 131,800 miles. Yours is ultra low mileage.

midimykeys
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Post by midimykeys »

I'll let you know about the carpet once I finish it (next day off). Here is a mod I did to my taillights which resulted in the car appearing to be a 95-97. I did it because I like the refined look of my last 2 cars. Keep up the good work, and thank you for the helpful posts.

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... =1&t=47575
2001 S80 2.9
2001 S60T
3 850s
1985 240 DL

asimba2
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Year and Model: 850 Turbo, 1995
Location: Northern California

Post by asimba2 »

The tail light upgrade you did made a big difference. I guess I got lucky that this car was a '95, otherwise I would making the change as well. The early tail lights make it look like the older Volvo 740/940s.

I look forward to seeing the carpet pics as well.

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