Thanks for your insight. It is definitely appreciated. Now time to do some thinking on what I want to do.Ozark Lee wrote:Sure sounds like it. If you get a socket wrench on the harmonic balancer nut and then rock the engine back and forth by hand you can often feel it. If it is in the bottom of the engine then a used engine is the only real alternative if you want to keep the car.helohero wrote:Rod bearing?
...Lee
1997 850 N/A - Engine noise - Camshaft squeal?
Re: 1997 850 N/A - Engine noise - Camshaft squeal?
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I have never tried comparing to pictures when the head is off, but I have always seen the mark. And always rotated the crank after the head was off for cleaning purposes etc., so I had to find it. But yeah, timing should be fine if it never moved.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
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mtd240
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Sounds very much like yours..
2007 XC70, white/oak, 175k miles
2008 XC70 3.2L, 115k miles
2016 XC60, osmium grey / off-black, 95k miles
Gone:
1990 240 DL Wagon, M47, lots of goodies. 372,000 miles
1978 242, lots and lots of work to get a reliable daily
1998 V70 XC, Almost done replacing everything, then I sold it
1996 850 NA, victim of sporadic tree falling. Protected the wife. RIP Volvo
2008 XC70 3.2L, 115k miles
2016 XC60, osmium grey / off-black, 95k miles
Gone:
1990 240 DL Wagon, M47, lots of goodies. 372,000 miles
1978 242, lots and lots of work to get a reliable daily
1998 V70 XC, Almost done replacing everything, then I sold it
1996 850 NA, victim of sporadic tree falling. Protected the wife. RIP Volvo
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What bothers me about this is that the noise cropped up so soon after the top end work. I suppose it is possible that the l got hot enough to do damage to the lower half when the car originally overheated but I would think that the present symptoms would have presented themselves fairly immediately after the head went back on and the car was re-started. Usually when a problem arises just after a related repair then the repair itself is where I start looking.
If a valve is sticking and getting slapped by a piston then it should show up in a compression test. Other than the God awful noise, the engine seems to run pretty smooth which would indicate good compression. That is what makes this such a mystery.
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If a valve is sticking and getting slapped by a piston then it should show up in a compression test. Other than the God awful noise, the engine seems to run pretty smooth which would indicate good compression. That is what makes this such a mystery.
...Lee
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Pull the oil drain plug and see what comes out.helohero wrote:I agree, sounds similar.
I don't think this 850 is worth saving. I'll probably sell a few parts off of it and then scrap it.
2007 XC70, white/oak, 175k miles
2008 XC70 3.2L, 115k miles
2016 XC60, osmium grey / off-black, 95k miles
Gone:
1990 240 DL Wagon, M47, lots of goodies. 372,000 miles
1978 242, lots and lots of work to get a reliable daily
1998 V70 XC, Almost done replacing everything, then I sold it
1996 850 NA, victim of sporadic tree falling. Protected the wife. RIP Volvo
2008 XC70 3.2L, 115k miles
2016 XC60, osmium grey / off-black, 95k miles
Gone:
1990 240 DL Wagon, M47, lots of goodies. 372,000 miles
1978 242, lots and lots of work to get a reliable daily
1998 V70 XC, Almost done replacing everything, then I sold it
1996 850 NA, victim of sporadic tree falling. Protected the wife. RIP Volvo
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I would also check the half moon pieces on the ends of the cams especially behind the CPS, make sure they are tight. Longshot but it did just get top end work, and if it's going to the scrapper otherwise ...
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
mtd240 wrote:Pull the oil drain plug and see what comes out.helohero wrote:I agree, sounds similar.
I don't think this 850 is worth saving. I'll probably sell a few parts off of it and then scrap it.
I've been busy this weekend, I'll drain the oil tomorrow and see if anything comes out with the oil.
Are you talking about the metal pieces that are attached to the camshafts under the camshaft position sensor and distributor cap?erikv11 wrote:I would also check the half moon pieces on the ends of the cams especially behind the CPS, make sure they are tight. Longshot but it did just get top end work, and if it's going to the scrapper otherwise ...
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Yes. Maybe only the CPS one could slap around. And granted, that would not explain why the engine was hard to turn over ...
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
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