How important is safety to you?
- June
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Re: How important is safety to you?
I sure would like to know what hit that car! June
My Volvo cars owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
- matthew1
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Betcha the backseat occupants were wishing the front had more crumple-zone-ness.
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1998 V70, no dash lights on
1997 850 T5 [gone] w/ MSD ignition coil, Hallman manual boost controller, injectors, R bumper, OMP strut brace
2004 V70 R [gone]
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1998 V70, no dash lights on
1997 850 T5 [gone] w/ MSD ignition coil, Hallman manual boost controller, injectors, R bumper, OMP strut brace
2004 V70 R [gone]
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- June
- Posts: 2275
- Joined: 4 May 2016
- Year and Model: 2004 S80 T6,1991 740
- Location: Arkansas
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My Volvo cars owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
- matthew1
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- Joined: 14 September 2002
- Year and Model: 850 T5, 1997
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Help keep MVS on the web -> click sponsors' links here on MVS when you buy from them.
Also -> Amazon link. Click that when you go to buy something on Amazon and MVS gets a cut!
1998 V70, no dash lights on
1997 850 T5 [gone] w/ MSD ignition coil, Hallman manual boost controller, injectors, R bumper, OMP strut brace
2004 V70 R [gone]
How to Thank someone for their post

Also -> Amazon link. Click that when you go to buy something on Amazon and MVS gets a cut!
1998 V70, no dash lights on
1997 850 T5 [gone] w/ MSD ignition coil, Hallman manual boost controller, injectors, R bumper, OMP strut brace
2004 V70 R [gone]
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- June
- Posts: 2275
- Joined: 4 May 2016
- Year and Model: 2004 S80 T6,1991 740
- Location: Arkansas
- Has thanked: 523 times
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My Volvo cars owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned
- mrbrian200
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When I bought the S60 safety wasn't foremost on my mind. Probably because just about anything would be better in this respect than the '95 Chrysler I had been driving.
Once I became a Volvo owner I began noticing things...
A video comparing crash tests of several MY2017 US-domestic muscle cars.
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Then I watched the tests for the 'old' P2 S60s.
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The P2 S60 performed virtually as good. Or better: the partial offset test of the 2017 Dodge was an eye opener.
Then I started paying closer attention in the local news when they show pictures of vehicles that were totally demolished in an accident, examples:
http://www.abc57.com/news/fatal-crash-o ... range-road
https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/l ... 66a73.html
http://www.abc57.com/news/alleged-drunk ... s-on-us-20
No matter what search terms I use in google it's difficult to find examples of a Volvo, new or old, torn apart/crushed beyond recognition like the examples I linked. The previous post of the junkyard car probably demonstrates this. Looks like a heavy truck rear ended it at a good clip. If 4 people were in the vehicle, only 1 would have likely sustained serious injury. The car held together remarkably well . It is not an unrecognizable mess leading you to guess that all occupants likely would have perished.
Then there was an old episode of Mythbusters I caught. The guys simulated a car being T-boned by a very heavy truck at high speed. They used a P80 Volvo wagon. Only the person sitting on the side/point of impact would likely have perished. But would anyone or everyone else in the car perish? Unlikely. Well at least, not in the Volvo. They didn't say that exactly, but it did seem to be implied. They they were trying find whether certain conditions make an 'unsurvivable crash' possibly survivable. Not specifically whether these conditions make it survivable in an average vehicle. So...this particular experiment called for... wait for it... a VOLVO.
So. At least in my case, owning a safe well built car steered me toward appreciating that safe well built aspect.
Then sis decided she wanted an SUV. Her price range range allowed for something from the early 2000s. Of the various models to choose from those years, with regard to safety a XC90 might be the only one to pass as 'good' by current standards. I took it upon myself to find a decent XC90 for her. Found a decent one (a few cosmetic issues, but dealer maintained) over a hundred miles away. She bought it.
Now that sis is a Volvo owner, she's expressed on occasion some of the same general observations I've already noticed and is thankful that I steered her into a Volvo. Safety will be a primary consideration for any future purchase.
Now that I have one of the safest vehicles I won't want to give that up. Volvo for life? Highly likely. However, someday I will want a newer one.
Once I became a Volvo owner I began noticing things...
A video comparing crash tests of several MY2017 US-domestic muscle cars.
[youtube]
[/youtube]
Then I watched the tests for the 'old' P2 S60s.
[youtube][/youtube]
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The P2 S60 performed virtually as good. Or better: the partial offset test of the 2017 Dodge was an eye opener.
Then I started paying closer attention in the local news when they show pictures of vehicles that were totally demolished in an accident, examples:
http://www.abc57.com/news/fatal-crash-o ... range-road
https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/l ... 66a73.html
http://www.abc57.com/news/alleged-drunk ... s-on-us-20
No matter what search terms I use in google it's difficult to find examples of a Volvo, new or old, torn apart/crushed beyond recognition like the examples I linked. The previous post of the junkyard car probably demonstrates this. Looks like a heavy truck rear ended it at a good clip. If 4 people were in the vehicle, only 1 would have likely sustained serious injury. The car held together remarkably well . It is not an unrecognizable mess leading you to guess that all occupants likely would have perished.
Then there was an old episode of Mythbusters I caught. The guys simulated a car being T-boned by a very heavy truck at high speed. They used a P80 Volvo wagon. Only the person sitting on the side/point of impact would likely have perished. But would anyone or everyone else in the car perish? Unlikely. Well at least, not in the Volvo. They didn't say that exactly, but it did seem to be implied. They they were trying find whether certain conditions make an 'unsurvivable crash' possibly survivable. Not specifically whether these conditions make it survivable in an average vehicle. So...this particular experiment called for... wait for it... a VOLVO.
So. At least in my case, owning a safe well built car steered me toward appreciating that safe well built aspect.
Then sis decided she wanted an SUV. Her price range range allowed for something from the early 2000s. Of the various models to choose from those years, with regard to safety a XC90 might be the only one to pass as 'good' by current standards. I took it upon myself to find a decent XC90 for her. Found a decent one (a few cosmetic issues, but dealer maintained) over a hundred miles away. She bought it.
Now that sis is a Volvo owner, she's expressed on occasion some of the same general observations I've already noticed and is thankful that I steered her into a Volvo. Safety will be a primary consideration for any future purchase.
Now that I have one of the safest vehicles I won't want to give that up. Volvo for life? Highly likely. However, someday I will want a newer one.
- 93Regina
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2013 Iveco in-house seminar (PDF 103 pages long) on the topic of "Introduction on CAN & CANopen"mrbrian200 wrote: ↑04 Apr 2018, 01:00Not sure. But I bet it threw a few mechanics into a tizzy back in the day.
- 93Regina
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So, say I'm linking to this: How important is safety to you?
Place mouse point just to left of "H" in How...then hold down left button, and move to end of "you."
. .
Then let go of left mouse button, and click on chain symbol in menu bar above, which when hoovered over with mouse will say "Insert URL
Then this will appear: Next an equal sign will have to be added manually, as shown below, then copy/paste URL right after equal sign, as shown
. I think at one time it was easy to insert URLs, but this site was upgraded, and poof went this easier method of copy/paste URLs. I suspect site owner could fix this...
- 93Regina
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Sidebar - When a fatality exist, it may be reported in local news if seat-belts were worn, even when a train-vehicle accident happened. Where mandated by law for recording/reporting seat-belt usage, only a buffoon could have come up with such a law being applicable to train-vehicle accidents.
Did You Know?
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at U.S. DOT:
Three out of four crashes occur within 25 miles of a motorist's home. Fifty percent of all crashes occur within five miles of home.
A calculation of NHTSA statistics on the rate of deaths per collision in vehicle/vehicle crashes versus the FRA statistics of deaths per collision in vehicle/train crashes reveals:
A motorist is almost 20 times more likely to die in a crash involving a train than in a collision involving another motor vehicle.
- mrbrian200
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In 1980 that would have likely thrown most mechanics into a tizzy.93Regina wrote: ↑04 Apr 2018, 20:17 2013 Iveco in-house seminar (PDF 103 pages long) on the topic of "Introduction on CAN & CANopen"
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For most, their experience with computers would have been limited to operating different forms of what would effectively be considered an electronic calculator or an Atari type game console.
In 1980, if someone knew anything about computers/networking they probably weren't working as an auto mechanic.






