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Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

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Re: What did you do to your Volvo today?

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I have finally got to clearing the stuff out the back of the R which is patiently waiting to have it's first run. I had stored a couple of the center sections of the dash panel that have the 4 firewall bolt mounts on them that break. I have started work piecing and gluing the 2 broken plastic mounts (2 were still good) back together, and now they are solid, I will now move on to re-inforce the mounts to future proof them and keep it for a spare. I hadn't planned to keep the other one as I thought it was too far gone. Glad I checked as is is actually better than the one I am working on with only small cracks and one broken mount. I'll fix it as well and keep both in case anyone needs them.

The repaired dash top and center Dolby speaker cover are also waiting for me to get over enthusiastic and fit them and the Dolby processor to the R. It can now wait until next winter and I'll do that swap before putting the car away.

There is also the never ending load cover repair I have been trying to design a better fix than the current products that are out there to repair the spring mounter ends that break off. The design of the repair kit is bad as it removes the spring loading on the ends so there is nothing to hold it from falling out. Not too clever.

Oh, and the XC60 transmission turned up out of the blue so that install needs to get planned when my mechanic friend returns from his vacation.

Neil.
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That hitch travelled by taxi, plane, bus, train, taxi, car, hand carry, ferry, and car….without a hitch!

United didn’t blink at letting me check but I was on a wallet draining Y fare which buys you a lot of “ goodwill”

I checked luggage at T-35 the other day ( past cutoff) and was told “ we can’t promise this will make it but will do our best “

As I left I heard her page “ tell James to bring the car and run a bag to flight 666 asap”
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Seems to be no end to the minor issues (for now)

Seem to have been hit by a cousin to lawnmower syndrome. Second leg of my errands today involved a short trip, but this one was while the engine was still warm. Stopped for maybe a minute (ATM was closed because the branch was closed, go figure) and then wouldn't start. Tried to start it thrice, it would start and immediately die. Tried with my foot to the floor and it started but immediately revved up, let my foot off and it died. Started it again with partial throttle pedal and tried to peg it at 2k but couldn't, almost like it was moving around even if my pedal was steady. What could this be? Still connected to my recent fuel relay issues or something else? Maybe TPS or IACV? MAF or ECT?
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RedBrickCollector wrote: 12 Jun 2024, 04:51 Seems to be no end to the minor issues (for now)

Seem to have been hit by a cousin to lawnmower syndrome. Second leg of my errands today involved a short trip, but this one was while the engine was still warm. Stopped for maybe a minute (ATM was closed because the branch was closed, go figure) and then wouldn't start. Tried to start it thrice, it would start and immediately die. Tried with my foot to the floor and it started but immediately revved up, let my foot off and it died. Started it again with partial throttle pedal and tried to peg it at 2k but couldn't, almost like it was moving around even if my pedal was steady. What could this be? Still connected to my recent fuel relay issues or something else? Maybe TPS or IACV? MAF or ECT?
Check the plug on your cam position sensor, it should be a yellow plug clipped into a bracket below the distributor. They have a tendency to crumble into sections, it happened on my car (being a good car, it happened in the driveway). Got home after an uneventful drive, car wouldn't start right when I went to head back out. The plug had completely crumbled into dust and the wires were hanging in the engine bay.

It could also be the fuel relay if you didn't replace the relay or capacitors, that's how mine behaved while it was in the "I'll get around to it stage" until it just wouldn't start at all one morning (again in my driveway!). I'd make a jumper and keep it in a safe place in the car incase it dies somewhere that isn't your driveway. I replaced mine with one from the junkyard that then died a week later, I wonder if that's why the car was sent to the junkyard in the first place.

Similar problem after I did a compression test on my car, I had installed the cam position sensor metal plate upside-down on the cam, engine would start, misfire, run on two cylinders, and die and throw injector codes. Also did it that to the same plate but on the distributor side, but in that case, it just cranked and cranked. Definitely not a good feeling after having a head rebuilt, you immediately assume the worst! The plates will fit in either orientation, but only truly seat in the right position.

EDIT: I haven't had an intake air control valve go bad on me yet, but I have had the hoses come off while on a drive on the highway, car sputtered as soon as I came to a stop at the exit. Car would start and idle a bit weakly in park and neutral, but would stall out in drive. So I drove my semi-automatic car to Autozone and found the magic fix was zip tie hose clamps.
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RedBrickCollector wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 23:57 Noticed a new leak today. Looks like water, wet spot is around the back of the engine in like with the driver (LHD). Are there any common leaks here? Turbo water line?
It could be the turbo coolant line that runs under the intake, or it could even be the lower radiator hose connection to the rear water pipe.
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jsrnsis wrote: 12 Jun 2024, 05:46
Check the plug on your cam position sensor, it should be a yellow plug clipped into a bracket below the distributor. They have a tendency to crumble into sections, it happened on my car (being a good car, it happened in the driveway). Got home after an uneventful drive, car wouldn't start right when I went to head back out. The plug had completely crumbled into dust and the wires were hanging in the engine bay.

Thanks, I recapped my fuel pump relay last week and I don't think it's the problem. I'll start by checking all the sensor wiring and the IACV hoses, the easy and free stuff.

If I understand things correctly the only other thing I can do without changing parts is check/clean the TPS. Is this like most where it's a simple resistance reading? If a 1997 T-5 is supposed to disable the injectors when you start it with the pedal floored, I think mine is suspect.
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I picked up a couple of iAC valves from the junkyard as I don't have any spares and as I tend to help folk with older Volvos it made sense to me??! :roll:

Anyway, brought them home, disassembled all the pipes off and then cleaned them using brake cleaner. I checked them before and after cleaning. One was completely stuck and really dirty, the other less so but was also slow to move. After cleaning both moved smoothly with a nice sharp click at the end of the travel and both sat at the same point at ambient.

So may be worth a clean even for the sake of maintenance. As suggested above, check connections and also the MAF connector and clean the MAF with MAF cleaner and let fully dry.

Neil.
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RedBrickCollector wrote: 12 Jun 2024, 08:11
jsrnsis wrote: 12 Jun 2024, 05:46
Check the plug on your cam position sensor, it should be a yellow plug clipped into a bracket below the distributor. They have a tendency to crumble into sections, it happened on my car (being a good car, it happened in the driveway). Got home after an uneventful drive, car wouldn't start right when I went to head back out. The plug had completely crumbled into dust and the wires were hanging in the engine bay.

Thanks, I recapped my fuel pump relay last week and I don't think it's the problem. I'll start by checking all the sensor wiring and the IACV hoses, the easy and free stuff.

If I understand things correctly the only other thing I can do without changing parts is check/clean the TPS. Is this like most where it's a simple resistance reading? If a 1997 T-5 is supposed to disable the injectors when you start it with the pedal floored, I think mine is suspect.
I don't think these cars have that feature, but I'm not 100%. I know for certain my BMW doesn't have it... ask me how I know... :shock:
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Made the mistake ( :o :lol: :lol: ) of going to the junkyard today to check out parts for an owner of an 95 850 wagon up in Edmonton. I have most of the parts he needs but he was looking for a engine oil dipstick as the handle is broken off and not with the car. I recall from a long time ago that Volvo used at least 3 different dipsticks in P80's. 2, I know of used in earlier cars were round wire type, but they had different lengths so the Hi and Low mark were about 1/4" different. I have the version with the part number: 1271921. There is an earlier version that has an almost identical part number that end 920. I recall someone buying one of these now ridiculously priced parts from Volvo and asking for the 920 version and getting home and finding it had the label for that but was stamped with the 921 number!!

Anyway, turned out to be a moot point as someone had taken the dipstick and there was only the 921 in a 98 V70.

Other thing I went to check was what the screws are that hole the 2 dash undertrays in place. The car arrived without them. Problem is I have loads, but there are 2 versions, one with a built in washer and one without. Someone had disconnected both and there were no 3 of one type left lying around. Anyone out there with an 850 can you post a picture? Worst case I can send 6 of each.

Naturally, as you do, you look over the 4 P80's as they seldom come in these days. So I found an amplifier under the seat of a 99 V70XC along with the connecting cable. I really do not need another as I have about 7 or more already I need to find homes for. This one may end up going back though as I had to peel it off the carpet. Someone had spilt a drink down there and stuck to the base. I'm hoping it was just on the base were it sits on the carpet. I will clean it and test it of course along with the cable.

The V70XC had the whole of the top of the engine in the trunk. Presumably burnt or dropped a valve. Shame it was not fixed as a lot of the trim looked nice. What did catch my eye was an ETM with a Xemodex sticker on it sitting in the trunk on a manifold. So that also had to come home and maybe someone will want it. I think I have around 5 or 6 LPT ETMs of various ages.

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I'm too scared to go back to the local pick and pull after they crushed all the p80s that had been there the previous time I was looking to get parts off of.
But I guess keeping the same smashed Kia forte with the engine already pulled is higher on the priority list. Id try to open my own junkyard but I wouldn't do very good business, I'd never let any parts go.


Question for people who've owned AWD and FWD p80s: do you feel that the FWD cars crawl forward and backward with a little more pep when in gear at idle?
I think the AWD system might add some drag, or maybe it's the turbo transmission gearing difference, but I feel my XC crawls a bit slow when in gear, and when sitting on even a slight hill upwards it doesn't creep forward when I take my foot off the brake. The naturally aspirated v70 feels like a rocket in gear at idle, I'm not used to riding the brakes backing out of the driveway.
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1998 V70 NA silver 202,510
1994 850 NA gray 125,000
1998 V70 NA white 163xxx

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