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Re: What did you do to your Volvo today? (now Sticky!!)
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Definitely going to be the best option! You can find good deals online for genuine plugs.
I did a lot of reading on VS, and most of those guys recommend using FR7DC with 0.028" gap on all turbo models. I'm not sure why they say 0.030" in the manual, I haven't really looked into that.WhatAmIDoing wrote: ↑07 Feb 2019, 18:45 I've always been a bit confused with what are the proper spark plugs for the T5. I see lots of recommendations for Bosch coppers gapped to 0.028", but the manual states the gap for turbos is 0.030":
Champion RC8PYP cross references to Bosch FR7DP which are the plugs currently in my T5, running happy.
Why does everyone recommend a gap of 0.028" regardless if turbo or NA? I've never seen anyone actually explain this. Is the manual wrong?
The correct plugs for the NA are actually 2- or 3-prong plugs, and are not adjustable. My cousin put a set of those in his last NA S70 and it ran much better than the old plugs (they were old and worn out, so an improvement was inevitable!).
I also read that the platinum plugs work best in NAs if you aren't using the Volvo plugs.
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All for Volvo blue boxes, but if I can get the same part for half the price or even less, you better believe I'm taking 50% off.Cookeh wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 04:44 Yes, but if I go to Volvo (60 mile trip) they'll charge me £55 for spark plugs. Now if those spark plugs are Champion RC8PYPs, then I can buy those for £30 delivered. If we're talking compatible spark plugs like the FR7DP, then I can get those for £20 delivered. The equivalents from NGK would cost me £12. Potentially significant savings to be had here, especially if they all perform equally due to having the same composition and same core thickness equating to the same ohm resistance and temperatures. Hence the dilemma, and the query.
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The Volvo ones won't be counterfeit. The Bosch ones can be, with probability exp(666/price you paid in cents)/Po
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Tried to do a little research. FCP lists "Volvo Spark Plug Set - 8692071" as the factory replacement for P80 turbos since 1994. After digging through the cross reference charts for those as well as Champion RC8PYP (appears NLA), I came up with DENSO PK20PR-P8, NGK PFR6B, and BOSCH FR7DPP+. After looking at Champions very nice parts finder tool, it would appear that RC8PYP has been superseded by RC9PYP.bmdubya1198 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 08:06Definitely going to be the best option! You can find good deals online for genuine plugs.
I did a lot of reading on VS, and most of those guys recommend using FR7DC with 0.028" gap on all turbo models. I'm not sure why they say 0.030" in the manual, I haven't really looked into that.WhatAmIDoing wrote: ↑07 Feb 2019, 18:45 I've always been a bit confused with what are the proper spark plugs for the T5. I see lots of recommendations for Bosch coppers gapped to 0.028", but the manual states the gap for turbos is 0.030":
Champion RC8PYP cross references to Bosch FR7DP which are the plugs currently in my T5, running happy.
Why does everyone recommend a gap of 0.028" regardless if turbo or NA? I've never seen anyone actually explain this. Is the manual wrong?
The correct plugs for the NA are actually 2- or 3-prong plugs, and are not adjustable. My cousin put a set of those in his last NA S70 and it ran much better than the old plugs (they were old and worn out, so an improvement was inevitable!).
I also read that the platinum plugs work best in NAs if you aren't using the Volvo plugs.
As for who makes Volvo plugs, there seems to be some debate (probably Bosch). All these plugs are (double) Platinum, so I'm assuming Volvo's are platinum as well. Anyway, based on my research (unless all the literature is wrong), platinum plugs gapped to 0.030" are the correct plugs for turbo P80s. *Your mileage may vary.
Everything I have read says not to use three pronged plugs in turbo engines.
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That's possible, the OE plugs for the NAs are 3 prong.
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Changed the heater core in the GLT today. No coolant on the floor fortunately, but it appears there was a slow leak coming from the heater core itself. There was some white crust around the bottom.
Probably the source of the coolant smell in the car, though. Unfortunately the trash bag I was using to cover the floor while removing the old heater core must have had a hole in it, I ended up spilling coolant all over my floor mat. Fortunately I decided to keep the mat in the car, otherwise my carpet would have been drenched!
I also installed my do88 expansion tank hoses since I had the coolant drained. Those had been on the shelf for at least a year!
Probably the source of the coolant smell in the car, though. Unfortunately the trash bag I was using to cover the floor while removing the old heater core must have had a hole in it, I ended up spilling coolant all over my floor mat. Fortunately I decided to keep the mat in the car, otherwise my carpet would have been drenched!
I also installed my do88 expansion tank hoses since I had the coolant drained. Those had been on the shelf for at least a year!
00 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 214k
07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
92 245 White/Beige 249k
91 944 Turbo 175k
…and a bunch of other stuff
Sold-
03 S60 2.4T
00 S70 GLT
98 V70 GLT
93 944
98 S90
95 850 GLT
01 S60 2.4T
05 S60R M66
08 S40 2.4i
88 744 Turbo M46
07 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 220k
92 245 White/Beige 249k
91 944 Turbo 175k
…and a bunch of other stuff
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00 S70 GLT
98 V70 GLT
93 944
98 S90
95 850 GLT
01 S60 2.4T
05 S60R M66
08 S40 2.4i
88 744 Turbo M46
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Canistos really suit the V70, more so than the C70 in my opinion.
Great information, thanks for taking the time. I've now seen a mix of platinum-iridium and double platinum being cross-referenced with the OE Champion plug, does anyone know if there is a performance advantage to one or the other?WhatAmIDoing wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 10:24Tried to do a little research. FCP lists "Volvo Spark Plug Set - 8692071" as the factory replacement for P80 turbos since 1994. After digging through the cross reference charts for those as well as Champion RC8PYP (appears NLA), I came up with DENSO PK20PR-P8, NGK PFR6B, and BOSCH FR7DPP+. After looking at Champions very nice parts finder tool, it would appear that RC8PYP has been superseded by RC9PYP.bmdubya1198 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2019, 08:06Definitely going to be the best option! You can find good deals online for genuine plugs.
I did a lot of reading on VS, and most of those guys recommend using FR7DC with 0.028" gap on all turbo models. I'm not sure why they say 0.030" in the manual, I haven't really looked into that.WhatAmIDoing wrote: ↑07 Feb 2019, 18:45 I've always been a bit confused with what are the proper spark plugs for the T5. I see lots of recommendations for Bosch coppers gapped to 0.028", but the manual states the gap for turbos is 0.030":
Champion RC8PYP cross references to Bosch FR7DP which are the plugs currently in my T5, running happy.
Why does everyone recommend a gap of 0.028" regardless if turbo or NA? I've never seen anyone actually explain this. Is the manual wrong?
The correct plugs for the NA are actually 2- or 3-prong plugs, and are not adjustable. My cousin put a set of those in his last NA S70 and it ran much better than the old plugs (they were old and worn out, so an improvement was inevitable!).
I also read that the platinum plugs work best in NAs if you aren't using the Volvo plugs.
As for who makes Volvo plugs, there seems to be some debate (probably Bosch). All these plugs are (double) Platinum, so I'm assuming Volvo's are platinum as well. Anyway, based on my research (unless all the literature is wrong), platinum plugs gapped to 0.030" are the correct plugs for turbo P80s. *Your mileage may vary.
Everything I have read says not to use three pronged plugs in turbo engines.
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