'85 245 timing mark strobes @ 90 deg

93Regina · Post by **93Regina** » 17 Jun 2014, 21:03

jimmy57 wrote:Chrysler ignition boxes,,,,,,,,,,can be sealed with cheap clear silicone sealer .

How about silicone di-electric grease...aka Super Lube

Post by **jimmy57** » 18 Jun 2014, 07:09

The silicone sealant is for the circuit board where the original gel is removed for soldering access. What I'm calling "gel" is a silicone sealer with little adhesive to it. It is not a product you can readily find and if you do it will be in a large quantity. Clear silicone sealer will do well to weatherproof the circuit board.

Post by **Mr Sabetodo** » 18 Jun 2014, 16:21

93Regina wrote:
Mr Sabetodo wrote:Everyone I've talked with seems to think that it's a fault of alignment.
Did you follow these instructions

You ran a string line, yes?
No

Check rotor's position when done, yes?
yes

I didn't run a string line but I've rebuilt many engines before, checked and alined the marks several times over the last 6 months, and am pretty confident they are right. I appreciate your interest but I'm now searching for other causes.

Post by **Mr Sabetodo** » 18 Jun 2014, 16:25

lummert wrote:
Mr Sabetodo wrote:I don't have a plug with threads that match so I lined up the timing mark w/ TDC on the cover and looked inside with my cheap boroscope from amazon. it appears to be 1/2 tooth off but that's perspective because I couldn't see straight down because the distributor drive wheel is in the way. Everyone I've talked with seems to think that it's a fault of alignment. I'm 99.9% sure that it isn't. This engine has 3 computers and several sensors that will put it into limp-home mode. I think Its one of them and I've replaced all but one (under the glovebox) because it looked new. The replacements were from ebay so it's possible they're bad too. sadly I don't know which one & I'd rather not replace them all again. I suspect the one on the right wheel well because it controls timing. Is there a way to test it?

You may have those timing belt guide washers switched. I'm thinking that the washer with the timing mark doesn't go on last. But I don't know for sure if it would change the location of the timing mark.

nope, one of them (with a notch) has a hole for the gear alignment pin to fit into the harmonic balance. They can't be switched.

93Regina · Post by **93Regina** » 19 Jun 2014, 21:39

Mr Sabetodo wrote:is it possible the pickup inside the distributor could be rotated?

I highly doubt it, but you might go to local salvage yard, and find another dizzy, and Chrysler ignition unit.

There is a test here to see if hall sensor is working or not. Might scan thru that Volvo Maintenance FAQ, but keep in mind they switch from older to newer vehicles.

My experience with hall sensors is they work or they don't. I'll be gone for about two weeks.

Post by **jimmy57** » 19 Jun 2014, 21:55

Hall sensor for that one is easy to check. The middle wire is the signal. It should be 5V/0V/5V/0V etc as engine or distributor shaft is moved.
The distributors do not all have the same shutter wheel. Some are 70/30 and other are 50/50. The ignition module must have the shutter wheel correct. As I recall 83 and 84 have indentical distributors on the B23F but the shutter wheel is the wrong open/close percentage. Be sure you get a B230F distributor if you get a replacment.

Post by **Mr Sabetodo** » 19 Jun 2014, 22:03

thanks I'll check that.

93Regina · Post by **93Regina** » 21 Jun 2014, 10:36

Mr Sabetodo wrote:alined the marks several times over the last 6 months,

It only takes a few minutes to bring up on TDC, pull distributor cap, and inform us where it (rotor cap) is pointing.

I deal with mechanical aspects before leap-frogging into electrical/fuel issues.

'85 245 timing mark strobes @ 90 deg

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