Uber self-driving test car ...pedestrian death

[mrbrian200]

I thought UBERs autonomous system was a completely separate system from Volvo's city safe technology which would need to be deactivated/not present on the UBER autonomous cars ??

Combining Volvo’s cars with Uber’s self-driving system

Ah, in the details of the article: "The self-driving system that would be used in the Volvo cars — which have yet to be built — is under development by Uber’s Advanced Technologies Group."

That spells out that the autonomous system is UBER's, not Volvo's.

[tryingbe]

The driver is a her.

What driver? Smartphone addiction

UK: 9 November 2015 - Rise of smartphone injuries: 43% of people have walked into something while glued to their screen, while 60% have dropped their phone onto their face while reading

March 30, 2017 Smartphones may be to blame for unprecedented spike in pedestrian deaths

April 4, 2017 More evidence that smartphones and driving don't mix - Cambridge Mobil Telematics (CMT) has released new data showing that phone distraction occurred during 52 percent of trips that resulted in a crash

Survival of the fittest. You can't pay attention while driving/walking/whatever? You die.

Play stupid game, win stupid prices.

[Rattnalle]

The driver is a her.

What driver? Smartphone addiction

UK: 9 November 2015 - Rise of smartphone injuries: 43% of people have walked into something while glued to their screen, while 60% have dropped their phone onto their face while reading

March 30, 2017 Smartphones may be to blame for unprecedented spike in pedestrian deaths

April 4, 2017 More evidence that smartphones and driving don't mix - Cambridge Mobil Telematics (CMT) has released new data showing that phone distraction occurred during 52 percent of trips that resulted in a crash

Survival of the fittest. You can't pay attention while driving/walking/whatever? You die.

Play stupid game, win stupid prices.

Unfortunately a lot of people who don't pay attention when while driving don't die they just kill.

[tryingbe]

What driver? Smartphone addiction

UK: 9 November 2015 - Rise of smartphone injuries: 43% of people have walked into something while glued to their screen, while 60% have dropped their phone onto their face while reading

March 30, 2017 Smartphones may be to blame for unprecedented spike in pedestrian deaths

April 4, 2017 More evidence that smartphones and driving don't mix - Cambridge Mobil Telematics (CMT) has released new data showing that phone distraction occurred during 52 percent of trips that resulted in a crash

Survival of the fittest. You can't pay attention while driving/walking/whatever? You die.

Play stupid game, win stupid prices.

Unfortunately a lot of people who don't pay attention when while driving don't die they just kill.

There is no fool proof way. You can ban cell phone use in car, but in reality, some people will ignore it and their cell phones will still be used. DUI for example.... happens every day, people choose to ignore it.

I maximize my chance of survival by looking both side of the road before I cross, make sure I make eye contact of the driver before I cross in front of their car in the parking lot, make sure "I" pay attention on the road of what's going on.

[93Regina]

There is no fool proof way.

FCC: Man used device to jam drivers' cell phone calls

The Federal Communications Commission says it only caught up with him after Metro PCS reported problems with a cell phone tower on Florida's I-4. The darned thing kept failing every morning and evening.

[93Regina]

Source

[tryingbe]

There is no fool proof way.

FCC: Man used device to jam drivers' cell phone calls

The Federal Communications Commission says it only caught up with him after Metro PCS reported problems with a cell phone tower on Florida's I-4. The darned thing kept failing every morning and evening.

You forgot to mention the $48,000 fine FCC charged him with.

[wizechatmgr]

If they're using LIDAR then that should have picked up the bicycle's frame - as well as the rider. The problem is at that speed, it is entirely possible they couldn't stop in time in either event after detection. It will be interesting to see what the recorded telemetry yields.

I know of a motorcyclist that has had about enough of cell phone use. Rumor has it he heads in at about the same time as me during the summer and may occasionally carry a low powered jammer. The fricking calls can wait. People need to concentrate on avoiding the pot holes, craters and small caves we have on our local roads.

[93Regina]

Unfortunately a lot of people who don't pay attention when while driving don't die they just kill.

The Unavoidable Folly of Making Humans Train Self-Driving Cars
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The British psychologist put RAF cadets alone in a sparse and silent wooden cabin where they would sit 7 feet from a clock 10 inches in diameter. The clock had a single hand. Every second, the hand moved forward a third of an inch. But at random intervals, it moved twice that distance. The subject’s job was to watch the clock, and press a morse key (that thing telegraph operators use) each time it made the double jump. Some of the cadets sat there for 30 minutes, others an hour, the unluckiest two hours. Mackworth worked in all sorts of variables—some subjects got telephone calls during the test, others got amphetamines—but the clear takeaway was it took less than half an hour for their attention to wander.

In Breakdown of Vigilance During Prolonged Visual Search, Mackworth traced the recognition of this phenomenon back to Shakespeare’s The Tempest:

For now they are oppress’d with travel, they Will not, nor cannot, use such vigilance As when they are fresh.

Before and since Mackworth’s time, the “vigilance decrement” has caused trouble everywhere humans are asked to spend long periods of mostly uneventful time, watching for easy to spot but impossible to predict signals. Security guards suffer from it. So do the people looking after nuclear reactors and Predator drones. Same goes for TSA agents and lifeguards.

And, as last week’s fatal crash in Tempe, Arizona, made clear, the vigilance decrement affects the people sitting behind the wheel of Uber’s self-driving cars.

[mrbrian200]

If they're using LIDAR then that should have picked up the bicycle's frame - as well as the rider. The problem is at that speed, it is entirely possible they couldn't stop in time in either event after detection. It will be interesting to see what the recorded telemetry yields.

https://jalopnik.com/lidar-maker-velody ... 1824027977

Velodyne says their LIDAR system that appears to be installed atop the vehicle absolutely should have imaged the pedestrian pushing a bicycle even in the dark. But it is up to Uber's software, that Velodyne isn't involved with, to interpret the data and make decisions.

You know the human brain's 'processing power equivalent' is estimated to be around 1 exaFLOP. Worlds fastest supercomputer can't do that yet. Yet how many accidents are human brains responsible for on a daily basis?

On a side note. If and when we do manage to develop computers which are that 'smart', they'll probably get bored and be looking at their cell phones too.