Login Register

1996 850 Base NA Severe Misfire after smooth running

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

Post Reply
zupta82
Posts: 82
Joined: 6 January 2019
Year and Model: 1995 960
Location: Utica NY
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Severe Misfire

Post by zupta82 »

Also, I use 87 octane usually and sometimes 93. I changed the fuel filter several months ago . I was wondering could water build build up in the filter from poor quality gas in a matter of months??

User avatar
erikv11
Posts: 11800
Joined: 25 July 2009
Year and Model: 850, V70, S60R, XC70
Location: Iowa
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 765 times

Post by erikv11 »

The water buildup seems unlikely to me but not sure.

A 96 850 should not have a fuel pressure dampener, just a Fuel Pressure Regulator (FPR). FPR should be either in the fuel rail, at the back of the subframe on the passenger side of the engine bay where the fuel lines come up from the tank, or back near the fuel filter. I'd check those places in that order. Don't get fooled by the rollover valve back there by the fuel filter, it isn't an FPR or a dampener.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

zupta82
Posts: 82
Joined: 6 January 2019
Year and Model: 1995 960
Location: Utica NY
Been thanked: 1 time

Post by zupta82 »

Can I check the regulator with the use of a vacuum pump

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35293
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1503 times
Been thanked: 3817 times

Post by abscate »

Bad gas is usually a bad diagnosis. Check the FPR by smelling it for liquid fuel inside, that's the failure mode
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

zupta82
Posts: 82
Joined: 6 January 2019
Year and Model: 1995 960
Location: Utica NY
Been thanked: 1 time

Post by zupta82 »

I took it for a drive just to see if it would throw a code and had very little power the check engine light came on and I got misfire on cylinder 2. I took out the plug on cylinder 2 and it was slightly black . On a whim I replaced the injector with an old one I had laying around and it ran better. I hooked up a vacuum gauge and it was pulling in about in about 18 pounds and it was steady I shut it off for about an hour came back and started it back up and it did the same again

tardcart
Posts: 410
Joined: 8 February 2019
Year and Model: 96 850t. 93 940t
Location: Pittstown Nj
Has thanked: 3 times
Been thanked: 37 times

Post by tardcart »

to check the regulator for leaky diaphragm just pull the regulator 5mm hose off the tree b¥ the throttle body and suck on it. if gas goes in your mouth or it doesn't hold a vacuum, it's bad. to check timing just take the 12mm bolt off front cover, turn wheel hard right and lift mud flap (one bolt) and use a socket to turn crank clockwise until the timing mark on the face of the pulley lines up with the forward timing belt. then see if the two cam gears are on the marks. You can peer in with a flash light to see the real timing marks on the gear to make sure the damper hasn't shifted. I dont think thats a problem with the 850s though.

zupta82
Posts: 82
Joined: 6 January 2019
Year and Model: 1995 960
Location: Utica NY
Been thanked: 1 time

Post by zupta82 »

I checked the timing and the regulator and they seem fine. I took a second look in the distributor cap and found about a tablespoon of water in it this time. The cap is about 6 months old. From my research there seems to be a plastic dome shaped thing under the cap that acts as a shield/seal. I reused the old one, a new one was not included with cap. Also, it seems to be missing a large o-ring that goes on this plastic dome. I looked everywhere online and can’t seem to find a new one to buy

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35293
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1503 times
Been thanked: 3817 times

Post by abscate »

Get the parts explosion off the Volvo parts Lisle site to get Volvo part numbers
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

User avatar
erikv11
Posts: 11800
Joined: 25 July 2009
Year and Model: 850, V70, S60R, XC70
Location: Iowa
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 765 times

Post by erikv11 »

erikv11 wrote: 24 Feb 2019, 22:16 Are you sure the cam seal is not blown out under the distributor cap, sending in moisture and oil?
The moisture is not likely coming from outside air, but from the engine combustion.

Take the dome to a machine shop and ask for an o-ring that fits. Or get another dome from a junker, these don't typically go bad.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

zupta82
Posts: 82
Joined: 6 January 2019
Year and Model: 1995 960
Location: Utica NY
Been thanked: 1 time

Post by zupta82 »

Update: I went to the junkyard and found when of them “saucer” like things for the distributor with a good o-ring. I buttoned everything up with the dried out distributor cap, thought I was out of the woods. The car started up fast and had tons of power after about 20-25 minute ride it started misfiring again.

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post