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Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

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Re: Maintenance Log - An expensive and naive s70 rebuild - life lessons earned and the quest to make it worth it.

Post by ZionXIX »

Looks like a snapshot of my life over the past 5 years
Scarlett: 1996 850 Turbo Wagon in Reagent Red Pearl ~210K mi
Norman: 2012 F150 XLT Crew Cab in Oxford White ~110K mi
Ember: 2005 XC90 2.5T FWD in Ruby Red Metallic ~83K mi *Newest addition to the fleet*
Ruby: 1997 850 Turbo Wagon in Reagent Red Pearl - parts car
Rose: 2020 Ram 1500 in Delmonico Red Pearl - SWMBO's Vehicle

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Post by abscate »

Three years of $300 car payments and your $10800 of cost is almost identical to your spend. When you think of the skills you have acquired and the confidence you have attained you have done really well. It’s no stretch to expect another 5 years /50 k from that car on consumables only. Add to that, this community , and the ability to access hard to find parts and you are living the Volvo dream
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Post by hausmeister »

Yeah, no lie about the money needed to fix a p80 up. I am also in way over what I should be. I learned a lot so I think it was worth it for me.

These things every p80 owner will have to do, either sooner or later - or if you are really lucky some else did it already shortly before you bought it.
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Post by abscate »

I must be up to 60 hours and $1000 parts on the Kat

That’s about $3000 for a $1500 car, maybe $2500 with a wind behind me.

I’ve put 3000 miles on her since, so she is paying back quickly
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Post by abscate »

TLDR

Instead of spending 20,000 to go to Autotech school. Young guy spends only 10k and gets a free luxury Euro car at end
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abscate wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 23:35 TLDR

Instead of spending 20,000 to go to Autotech school. Young guy spends only 10k and gets a free luxury Euro car at end
Haha yes on this i think its relevant that i've become the car guy that people go to for help and me and my friends now get together to work on our old trucks.

Also in the last year I completed two projects entirely built on the knowledge i've gained and community i've fostered:
1. is the pencil truck - (made for my friend's illustration business, included alot of mechanical work)
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/05/06/ ... omerville/

2 is turbo-swapping my 93 ford ranger (which included rebuilding an engine from the block up, vehicle electrical and now tuning an aftermarket ECM)
turning my parents barn into a spray booth
turning my parents barn into a spray booth
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The pencil truck
The pencil truck
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Truck running with the new engine and megasquirt based ecm
Truck running with the new engine and megasquirt based ecm
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87 Thunderbird 2.3 after i rebuilt it
87 Thunderbird 2.3 after i rebuilt it
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99 s70 NA Manual - ~270k miles - Died when a friend shot it up a highway embankment

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Post by Sveedy »

Interesting projects ! That's a neat conversion for your Ranger. My son has one, and it is sooo under powered. Always feels like its towing a boat.
I'll bring this idea up to him.
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Post by abscate »

abscate wrote: 02 Mar 2021, 11:37
some personal finance types say a car should cost you no more than $1500 per year average over the course of ownership)
Personal finance people are stupid wankers

Average driver in US , 12000 miles per year

Fed gives you 50 cents per mile for a new car, of which half is depreciation , so in average people spend about 6k a year per car. Getting that to 1500 a year is only possible if you do your own work.

Your running 40 cents per mile now but that will drop steeply each year you run it, and will converge to 20 cpm long term, which is a good frugal target.
Update on the Federal mileage rate. It’s now 62.5 per mile

For a guy who had barely turned a wrench to three major engine and body projects in a couple years…. Incredible.

Hmmm pencil car…

Does it draw a crowd?

Can you park it in sketchy neighborhoods?

Can it use leaded gas?

Is it his #2 car?

Did it look good and sharp on paper?
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Post by MrAl »

smacknab wrote: 08 Dec 2022, 12:39
abscate wrote: 27 Oct 2022, 23:35 TLDR

Instead of spending 20,000 to go to Autotech school. Young guy spends only 10k and gets a free luxury Euro car at end
Haha yes on this i think its relevant that i've become the car guy that people go to for help and me and my friends now get together to work on our old trucks.

Also in the last year I completed two projects entirely built on the knowledge i've gained and community i've fostered:
1. is the pencil truck - (made for my friend's illustration business, included alot of mechanical work)
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/05/06/ ... omerville/

2 is turbo-swapping my 93 ford ranger (which included rebuilding an engine from the block up, vehicle electrical and now tuning an aftermarket ECM)

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Hello there,

Wow you did a lot of work to your car from the first post. Looks like you basically tore it apart from top to bottom and repaired everything you could have thought of.

So my question is, what are you going to do when you have it all working perfectly? You're going to be lost unless you buy another one and start all over again :-)
Maybe you could start restoring these cars and selling them.
I’ve been driving a Volvo long before anyone ever paid me to drive one.
That's probably because I've been driving one since 2015 and nobody has offered to pay me yet.
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Post by abscate »

There are lots of business plans out there spending $10,000 to generate $1500 of revenue .
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