OK, last chance.......anybody?........Bueller?........
It's a Lancia Montecarlo. named for the famous rally, since Lancias won a lot of rallies. Called a Scorpion in the US because Chevrolet owns Monte Carlo, and the logo for Abarth is a scorpion. Sold from about '75 to '82.
This car was designed by Paolo Martin at Pininfarina starting way back in 1969 - under contract to Fiat, which was planning a replacement for the 124 Sport Coupe. The coachbuilder Bertone produced the tiny X1/9 design and Fiat jumped on that, as the Montecarlo was too costly for Fiat pricing structure. By that point, Lancia was under the umbrella of Fiat ownership, so they gave the car to Lancia as an upmarket "halo car." It was code-named the X1/20 and Abarth developed it into a screaming turbo race car.
The Montecarlo/Scorpion was intended to have a 3 liter Lancia V6 and be a mini-supercar. Then the 70s oil crisis hit and it it got downgraded to a 2 liter Lancia twin-cam four, the same engine as in the old 124. It made about 120 hp in a very light car, but by the time the emission-choked US version was approved, it had a 1.8 version with........83 hp. It was slow. But handled very well.
They had to add big impact bumpers, tall springs, and ugly headlights to meet US regulations, but they still sold.
Some issues - they rusted. And somebody thought it was smart to boost only the front brakes, on a rear-weight-biased car. So in the rain, the fronts locked up. People just unhooked the booster, but then the calipers and rotors were too small. Eventually the car was withdrawn from the market and a year later a much better Series 2 came out with bigger wheels, better brakes, and moar torkx.
I remembered it because recently I saw a post from a guy swapping in the fantastic Alfa Romeo "Busso" 3-liter V6, which is a glorious howling wonder. It comes from the FWD Alfa 164 sedan, so it's a sideways motor with 5 speed manual transaxle, and it fits! Perfect!
The rally and endurance race cars used the central structural tub with new tube-framed front and rear assemblies, and made up to 500 hp in race form. They beat the Audi quattro's in the World Rally Championship with rear-wheel-drive, and won the Group 5 endurance championship. The last hurrah for Lancia before becoming the Italian Buick.
Let's play Name That Car
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with bigger wheels, better brakes, and moar torkx.
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That is a striking car from 50's or early 60's. It appears to have a rear engine from the air intakes on sides. Poor deck lids fit.
Upscale Italian?
volvolugnut
Upscale Italian?
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The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
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Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
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I think it’s an early prototype for the ‘63 split window Corvette.
Could it be a Tatra?? (WTH is a Tatra?!)
I only guess that because I searched for 50’s European sedan rear engine fastback, and found this....
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbsid ... n-efforts/
They built some weird stuff.
Could it be a Tatra?? (WTH is a Tatra?!)
I only guess that because I searched for 50’s European sedan rear engine fastback, and found this....
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbsid ... n-efforts/
They built some weird stuff.
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I was getting ready to post this (don't think it would've helped) :BlackBart wrote: ↑01 Apr 2023, 12:20 I think it’s an early prototype for the ‘63 split window Corvette.
Could it be a Tatra?? (WTH is a Tatra?!)
I only guess that because I searched for 50’s European sedan rear engine fastback, and found this....
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbsid ... n-efforts/
They built some weird stuff.
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69 1800s, @500k Death by Rust
94 850 Turbo, T-boned, ambulance for me, crusher for it
97 855 T5, 855 R projects
98 V70R x2, Silver Junkyard rescue, Coral Red
98 V70GLT x2, parts cars
00 V70xc x2, both now dead
62 122s, gone to live in Richmond
56 445 Duett basket project
1950 Studebaker 2R10 flatbed, T9 crashbox
94 850 Turbo, T-boned, ambulance for me, crusher for it
97 855 T5, 855 R projects
98 V70R x2, Silver Junkyard rescue, Coral Red
98 V70GLT x2, parts cars
00 V70xc x2, both now dead
62 122s, gone to live in Richmond
56 445 Duett basket project
1950 Studebaker 2R10 flatbed, T9 crashbox
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SIXTY nine, wow, I’m at least a decade off! 2.5 liter V8, huh. Those look like little 911 fans on each side...wait, is it air-cooled??
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Reported to have been in production through '75, it followed this one.
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69 1800s, @500k Death by Rust
94 850 Turbo, T-boned, ambulance for me, crusher for it
97 855 T5, 855 R projects
98 V70R x2, Silver Junkyard rescue, Coral Red
98 V70GLT x2, parts cars
00 V70xc x2, both now dead
62 122s, gone to live in Richmond
56 445 Duett basket project
1950 Studebaker 2R10 flatbed, T9 crashbox
94 850 Turbo, T-boned, ambulance for me, crusher for it
97 855 T5, 855 R projects
98 V70R x2, Silver Junkyard rescue, Coral Red
98 V70GLT x2, parts cars
00 V70xc x2, both now dead
62 122s, gone to live in Richmond
56 445 Duett basket project
1950 Studebaker 2R10 flatbed, T9 crashbox
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BlackBart
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Wow. Those are either visionary or crazy talk.
All that weight hanging off the back, and a fin to keep it going in a straight line?
All that weight hanging off the back, and a fin to keep it going in a straight line?
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1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty
1994 850T5 wagon
2004 XC70 wagon BlackBetty