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scot850 wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 14:32 Below is an article
I think this is the article: https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/le ... ntainment/

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Notes above from UCSF are scary but not too surprising considering other information.

Today we bought garden plants and seeds to plant in our yard. Not at all sure if they will grow, but it is also something to do while staying home. If we do grow some food, then we can eat that instead of going to the store. If we grow more than we need, we can give to our neighbors.

This may be a good time to stock up on Volvo parts and make routine repairs. I already have several repair projects planned with parts on hand. At least Volvo parts will not usually go bad in a few months like hoarded food items.
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volvolugnut wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 15:42 This may be a good time to stock up on Volvo parts and make routine repairs. I already have several repair projects planned with parts on hand. At least Volvo parts will not usually go bad in a few months like hoarded food items.
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What parts would you suggest? I have a bunch of extra oil filters and that's about it
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I suggest the parts your car needs to have replaced. Not to hoard parts, but to gather parts for working on your vehicles this summer. Parts like suspension, belts, water pumps, and crankcase venting. Detailed cleaning and rustproofing also. If you have extra time because of coronavirus, invest in your vehicle maintenance.
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Don't take any unnecessary risk at this point, try to be among the 40% or so who don't get infected this round and hope there will be an effective vaccine or cure by the time you could need it. Don't go anywhere unless you have to (getting food basically, if you can work from home of course, not possible for probably around two-thirds of us) and keep distance, wash your hands etc etc. This is way worse than a flu and, in case anyone forgot, the Spanish flu killed around 50 million a century ago and the plague around double that. Suffocating is a bad way to go. So why risk it, or risk infecting someone else who can't handle it.

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Cees Klumper wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 19:17 Don't take any unnecessary risk at this point
Spanish flu

"The mayor of St. Louis quickly took that advice, closing for several weeks “theaters, moving picture shows, schools, pool and billiard halls, Sunday schools. By contrast, Philadelphia took none of those measures; the epidemic there had started before Dr. Blue’s warning. Its death rate skyrocketed."
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Reading the paper (yes we still get it delivered) there are 2 companies in Germany who are well along the way to developing possible vaccines for covid-19. Problem is even if they do a proper test program, it can take 1-2 years to get a vaccine released.

Canada is also chasing 2 front. A father and daughter team well versed in these issues, are working on 2 fronts. One for a vaccine and the father is working with others in China and other parts of the world to develop a test than can give a result in 20 mins and is simple to administer.

Following up on the drive thru testing that failed in the US mentioned earlier. Edmonton in Alberta here has implemented a drive thru program. It is however only used by those who have got an appointment. They have not advertised where it is being done to prevent walk up requests as it is only for those identified with potential serious issues. The advantage is it is keeping the spread out of the emergency rooms until it can be identified and properly brought into hospital.

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There is a lot of uncertainty with the present test. Trying to discriminate RNA from very similar viruses from the one in question isnt trivial, so there are bound to be false positives.

You don't NEED to know if you have the virus. If you think you have been exposed, you have to isolate yourself from loved ones.

Everyone else, you treat them as if you are positive - thats Isolation.
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Pretty spooky, thought this whole thing was a 'nothing' - but everyone's called off of work today, Costco's stripped clean.. fingers crossed this isnt one to go down in the history books

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abscate wrote: 16 Mar 2020, 11:45Trying to discriminate RNA from very similar viruses from the one in question isnt trivial,
"Scientists at the at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in
Seattle say the 30,000-letter genetic code of the virus changes by one
letter every 15 days. It’s not known how many of these changes would
be needed for the virus to seem different enough to the immune system
of someone who had a previous version of it for it to cause a fresh
infection."
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Chinese scientists who compared the genetic sequences of 103 viral
samples from patients infected with COVID-19 said their evidence
suggests that the virulent version of the coronavirus — which they
tagged the “L-type” version — was the dominant strain in the earliest
phase of the outbreak that began in Wuhan late last year. That strain,
they said, appeared to recede as the epidemic progressed.

But among samples collected later, as COVID-19 spread across China and
into other countries, a variant of the virus they dubbed the “S-type”
was more common, the scientists reported. They suggested that the
genetic makeup of the S version more closely resembles coronaviruses
circulating in bats and pangolins, the animals that are thought to
have incubated the virus before it jumped to humans. And they surmised
that it is a less virulent version.

The findings suggest the S-type version of the coronavirus may have
escaped its animal hosts earlier than previously believed — and that
it may have been circulating longer without causing enough illness to
set off alarm bells

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2 ... -dangerous

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