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Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by prwood » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:33 pm

The outside panel on my 2001 V70’s tailgate is starting to separate and is rattling quite a bit. It appears to have been held together with adhesive, which I’m assuming is starting to deteriorate due to age. Anyone know what sort of adhesive should be used to seal this back up?
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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:46 pm

What type of bond needed?
1. Fiberglass to Metal.
2. Plastic to Metal.
3. Fiberglass to Plastic.
4. Fiberglass to Fiberglass.
5. Plastic to Plastic.


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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by prwood » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:48 pm

I believe it’s metal to metal.


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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:52 pm

prwood wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:48 pm
I believe it’s metal to metal.
Metal to Metal: J-B Weld. Then clean off the excess with with a little Acetone on a rag (Before it cures).


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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by Rattnalle » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:08 pm

The entire tailgate is plastic except for the hinges. You'll need a plastic to plastic adhesive.



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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by prwood » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:30 am

Rattnalle wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:08 pm
The entire tailgate is plastic except for the hinges. You'll need a plastic to plastic adhesive.
I took a magnet out to do some tests and it did not stick to the tailgate, so it looks like this is the case. I had no idea, clearly.* :-) Plastic to plastic adhesive it is. Does JB Weld make a good one or is there a better quality brand?


*To satisfy my curiosity, I tried the magnet out on all the painted exterior surfaces of the car, and it stuck to (metal assumed):
- roof
- side doors
- quarter panels

But did not stick to (plastic or nonferrous metal assumed):
- hood
- tailgate
- side mirror casings
- Bumper covers
- painted trim around cargo area windows


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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by Rattnalle » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:43 am

I'm not sure about brands but I'd probably use any available two component epoxy myself.

The cars body is steel so are front quarter panels and doors. Hood is made from aluminum. Other pieces of painted trim plastic all of it.



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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by RickHaleParker » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:35 pm

prwood wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:30 am

But did not stick to (plastic or nonferrous metal assumed):
- hood
- tailgate
- side mirror casings
- Bumper covers
- painted trim around cargo area windows
Tap them with your finger, there are distinctive difference sounds for Metal, Plastics and Fiberglass ..ect.
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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?

Post by prwood » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:39 pm

This looks about right:



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Re: Tailgate panel separating, what type of adhesive?  Topic is solved

Post by prwood » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:09 am

I ended up using this tan-colored plastic bonder from JB Weld:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/J-B-Weld-0- ... /303710788

It did the job, although it was harder to get into some of the spots that wouldn't open very wide. If I did it again, I would probably try to crack it open a bit wider so I could get a complete bead in all the way around. In any case, the rattle is gone and my ride is much quieter.

As a side benefit, this bonder dries to the same color as the interior trim on my V70, so I was able to use it to repair a few places where that trim has cracked! Nice.


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