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V70 2.4 has my ETS died again

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V70 2.4 has my ETS died again

Post by IanV70 » Tue May 28, 2019 11:08 am

Hi all, just found this site while trying to do some research and figure out what's up with my car. It's a 2.4 V70 just over 150k miles, been in the family since new.

The other day I was driving home from work and suddenly the car lost power, ETS light came on. I crawled back home at around 25 mph as it wouldn't go any faster. Then I got a code reader and read the ECU codes, below is what has been read.
  • P0171 System too lean, bank 1
    P0225 Throttle position (TP) sensor C/accelerator pedal position (APP) sensor C -circuit malfunction
    P0220 Throttle position (TP) sensor B/accelerator pedal position (APP) sensor B -circuit malfunction
    P1603 Electronic throttle system (ETS)- range/performance problem
    P1620 ETS warning lamp output – intermittent signal
    P1610 Electronic throttle system (ETS)- throttle valve command/actual throttle valve position, correlation
    P1670 Immobilizer control module – communication error/tampering/code error
    P1621 Instrumentation control module, real time clock – communication malfunction
I believe some of these codes arent related, but does P1603, P1620 and P1610 usually point to a bad throttle body. It was rebuilt a couple of years ago and should have warranty, I just want to know if that is the issue before removing and posting back.



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Re: V70 2.4 has my ETS died again

Post by abscate » Tue May 28, 2019 1:21 pm

Try clearing all the codes, then have a VIDA report of the ETB sensor positions

They rarely go suddenly in my limited experience, they give 5000-10000 miles warning
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Re: V70 2.4 has my ETS died again

Post by IanV70 » Tue May 28, 2019 2:54 pm

abscate wrote: ↑
Tue May 28, 2019 1:21 pm
Try clearing all the codes, then have a VIDA report of the ETB sensor positions

They rarely go suddenly in my limited experience, they give 5000-10000 miles warning
Thanks for the response, I should have said, it did have this issue about 2 years and 20,000 miles ago. The car became almost undrivable, no local garage could fix it and I ended up sending the throttle body away to be rebuilt.

Last Friday when this happened again, I was on my way home from work and that was on a busy dual carriageway with a 70 mph limit, so being stuck at 30 wasn't fun or safe. It has happened another two times since then so I have parked it up and borrowed a relatives car until I can get it resolved.



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Post by abscate » Wed May 29, 2019 4:51 pm

The rebuilds should last 100,000 miles or more, but they can be botched of course. My current yellow replacement has 100k on it


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Re: V70 2.4 has my ETS died again

Post by bmdubya1198 » Wed May 29, 2019 9:37 pm

The throttle-related codes look like a possible failed ETM. Clear em and see what comes back. It looks like you've got some other issues as well.


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Post by IanV70 » Thu May 30, 2019 12:48 pm

Yea I know at least 3 of those issues are unrelated. The ETM has a life time warranty apparently so I have removed and boxed up, supplie are sending a courier to collect it tomorrow.

If they say it is broken beyond repair, what are my options?



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Post by abscate » Thu May 30, 2019 1:52 pm

You can still get new ones from FCP, but they should honor the warranty of course.

Unless you guys Brexit, when all warrantys become null and void.


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Post by IanV70 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:18 pm

Thought I had replied but I mustn't have pressed post.

I spoke to BBA on Friday, they advised that the wiring inside the tb has failed and the unit is beyond repair.

They can supply a new one and will subtract the cost I originally paid for repair, from the full price. The new (used) one will then come with lifetime warranty.

It's going to cost ÂŁ3-400 to fix a carwhats only worth a bit more, but I like it so I will. I guess this is my best option?
Shame they can't be bypassed and fitted with a manual throttle and cable.



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Post by bmdubya1198 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:04 pm

IanV70 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:18 pm
Thought I had replied but I mustn't have pressed post.

I spoke to BBA on Friday, they advised that the wiring inside the tb has failed and the unit is beyond repair.

They can supply a new one and will subtract the cost I originally paid for repair, from the full price. The new (used) one will then come with lifetime warranty.

It's going to cost ÂŁ3-400 to fix a carwhats only worth a bit more, but I like it so I will. I guess this is my best option?
Shame they can't be bypassed and fitted with a manual throttle and cable.
You probably did post, but it seems some posts had been lost in the site maintenance that's been happening over the past few days.

I wish it was that easy! I'd have already done that on my V70R.


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1998 S90- Silver/Gray 207k
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Re: V70 2.4 has my ETS died again

Post by IanV70 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:56 am

Finally got the replacement part today, it had to come from Italy.

Will it need VIDA or Volvo to code it in? Or can I fit it and get a mobile mechanic with a OBD computer to come and sort it?



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