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Climate control blower

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Climate control blower

Post by greg850r » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:40 am

Hi all,

I have a 96 850T sedan I just put a head on and everything went well but the blower won't work. I already changed the ECC, the resister with the fins on it and blew out the 2 temp sensors in the cabin. I also tried jumping the pressure switch under the hood. There is 12v power at the blower motor. The ECC lights up and I can hear the damper doors working. It's giving me the twenty second flashing 2 lights when I turn the key on to show there's a fault. Results are the same with swapped in parts as with what came on it. The car is new to me. Bought it and drove it home with a burnt exhaust valve and cannot remember if I tried the climate control on the way home. I may not have though, because I did find the 2 wires that control the compressor were not plugged in and from the connectors' appearance I think they have been hanging unplugged for a long time. I scraped the metal clean and plugged them back in. All changes were to no avail and the blower and compressor will not engage. Sliding the fan switch between auto and manual I get the same result. Looking for what else to check. Does anyone know anything I could look at next?


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Re: Climate control blower

Post by ZionXIX » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:36 pm

Is it possible to power the blower directly to ensure it works?



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Re: Climate control blower

Post by greg850r » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:54 pm

I did reach in through the cowl and it spins by hand like a new one so not locked up and bearings are good. I guess figuring out where to put 12 volts will be my next step. I'm willing to bet it does. 130xxx mi one owner car with a lot of new Volvo parts on it and the compressor won't kick on either so I think it's probably not the blower motor.


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Re: Climate control blower

Post by ZionXIX » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:15 pm

greg850r wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:54 pm
I did reach in through the cowl and it spins by hand like a new one so not locked up and bearings are good. I guess figuring out where to put 12 volts will be my next step. I'm willing to bet it does. 130xxx mi one owner car with a lot of new Volvo parts on it and the compressor won't kick on either so I think it's probably not the blower motor.
Not that I've tried but I would think if you connect 12v backwards ththe motor will just spin in the opposite direction. If you remove the glovebox and knee bolster there is a plug pointed towards the center of the motor at about 7 or 8 o clock position.



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Re: Climate control blower

Post by greg850r » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:35 pm

I just put a 'new' blower in from a donor car. I tested both on the bench and got nothing from either, so with nothing to lose I put the other one in and it runs. Compressor won't go though. I put 12 volts to the wire and the clutch engages. Tried jumper on the pressure switch by the firewall but still nothing. Added 2 cans of freon without it running and they both went in.


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Re: Climate control blower

Post by abscate » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:59 pm

You check integrity of an AC with vacuum before charging. An unknown history on a P80 usually means a leak in the System.

The wiring from connector to motor went on my T5 a couple years ago, it was an intermittent failure of blower


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Re: Climate control blower

Post by erikv11 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:21 pm

I commonly test blower motors by putting 12v to them on the bench, a good one will spin right up.

As far as the AC hopefully it's not the evap core (but likely it is).


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Re: Climate control blower

Post by greg850r » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:39 am

My vacuum pump isn't here at the moment so I skipped that step. I did push the valve and there was some pressure in the system so it wasn't open at least. I was willing to risk a can of freon or two. If I can't get it to turn on the next thing I'll do is make a connector and plug the compressor right to power so I can run it and see what happens.


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Re: Climate control blower

Post by abscate » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:53 am

Dont vent any gas to the atmosphere - not only is it illegal, if your neighbors don't like you they can collect a 10,000 USD rat out fee on you. (Your test is a fair one and releases negligible amounts of R134A)

Testing with vacuum is much faster and better practice. Take a borescope and check your evap out too - these rot out on the P80s. Thats a cheap part and just stupid labor to get to it, about 10 hours during which you can replace the heater core and dash squeaks, too.

Ive found my local AC place will evacuate for free if they can keep the R134A, which is fine by me.


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Re: Climate control blower

Post by greg850r » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:15 am

abscate wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:53 am
Ive found my local AC place will evacuate for free if they can keep the R134A, which is fine by me.
:idea:


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97 850R 5spd sedan
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67 GTO 455 T400
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85 Yota 4x4
24' 454 Challenger
07 Softail Custom
02 Sportster Custom
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