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Engine Oil recommendation ?

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Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by Mikele82 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:37 pm

So i bought my XC70 with 176000mil.
Time for an oil change, Jiffylube says previous owner put 10/30 regular oil.
They recommend synthetic (at 115$ for the change)
Should I switch to synthetic?
Any recommended brand with good cost/quality?
I can probably do the change myself, is it worth the $?
I live in portland
summer 60-90f
Winter 30-60
Should I do 5-40 or 5-30 or 10-30?

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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by cn90 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:48 pm

Search forum for info but very easy.

- Use Mahle (OEM) or Mann.
FCPEuro etc. has it for $5/each.

- Tool: 17-mm socket and special tool:
viewtopic.php?t=89347

- Oil: any synthetic is OK. Search forum.
For Oregon, I guess you can use 10W30 or 10W40.

- DIY cost is about $30 for synthetic oil and $5 for the oil filter.
If Jiffy Lube wants $115, then it is a bit high.

Just DIY very easy, I posted info on how to make wood ramps, just drive the car up the ramps, do oil change and drive it down.


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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by MoVolvos » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:20 pm

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Excellent all year round oil.

Shell Rotella T6 Full Synthetic 5W-40 Diesel Motor Oil (1-Gallon, Case of 3)
Price: $55.19 & FREE Shipping
https://www.amazon.com/Shell-Rotella-Sy ... way&sr=8-3

I stumble upon this around 6 years ago when it was onsale at O'Reilly's. At $13 a gallon I thought it was cheap enough as a cleaning motor oil before putting in a better quality oil. Well, the thing made the van so quiet decide to get more and realized it was synthetic.

Early this year tried the new 5-40W Mobil 1 again when it was $10 case off at Costco. Had to WOT the 03 Odyssey one day and the lower end of the motor sounded like it was going to come apart. Got it out and Rotella back in again. Smooth and Peaceful again.

Have used WIX for a long time. All the shops in CA buy this from O'Reilly so it was not on the shelves. Bosch, Mann or Mahle are all good.


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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by chris11211 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:14 pm

One of the things I believe is that it doesn't fricking matter where you get your oil from, as long as it's the same viscosity's that is labeled in the manual and in the case of P2 Volvo's, full synthetic.

Here's the one amazon sells. 5w-30, high mileage full synthetic, and the 6 quarts you need to fill it up.
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Hig ... r=8-3&th=1

And here's Walmart's version of the same product, but even more cheaper!! And you can just get it in person.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Tech-H ... ected=true

Do you live in Portland Oregon? If so, then you could probably just drive to IPD and get stuff from there. They have kits that makes it simple.
https://www.ipdusa.com/products/5811/10 ... 03-1275810

You are also gonna need a oil filler cap seal that goes in the filler cap as the rubber will harden and the seal will crack, causing a mess on top of the engine.
https://www.ipdusa.com/products/4737/10 ... 44-1275379

And get a splash guard with screws if it's missing. Less you like corrosion and debris on the belts.
https://www.ipdusa.com/products/11533/1 ... 44-8634813
https://www.ipdusa.com/products/11617/1 ... =P0,P11533

Finally, just get those rhino ramps, you'll fit under the car and oil changes are a piece of cake. I would give you my spare oil filter tool if you need, but I think shipping from NY to OR is ludicrous.



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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by Rattnalle » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:52 pm

cn90 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:48 pm
Search forum for info but very easy.

- Use Mahle (OEM) or Mann.
FCPEuro etc. has it for $5/each.

- Tool: 17-mm socket and special tool:
viewtopic.php?t=89347

- Oil: any synthetic is OK. Search forum.
For Oregon, I guess you can use 10W30 or 10W40.

- DIY cost is about $30 for synthetic oil and $5 for the oil filter.
If Jiffy Lube wants $115, then it is a bit high.

Just DIY very easy, I posted info on how to make wood ramps, just drive the car up the ramps, do oil change and drive it down.
10w* most likely isn't synthetic but a semi blend. 5w40 is a good general viscosity that covers mostly everything but extreme cold and is quite likely to actually be synthetic.



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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by DrDan » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:42 am

chris11211 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:14 pm
One of the things I believe is that it doesn't fricking matter where you get your oil from, as long as it's the same viscosity's that is labeled in the manual and in the case of P2 Volvo's, full synthetic.
I would like to add that you should stick to the required specification also. For my 02 NA, it says A3/B4 and as far as I know, A5 is not suitable.



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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by Rattnalle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:00 am

DrDan wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:42 am
chris11211 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:14 pm
One of the things I believe is that it doesn't fricking matter where you get your oil from, as long as it's the same viscosity's that is labeled in the manual and in the case of P2 Volvo's, full synthetic.
I would like to add that you should stick to the required specification also. For my 02 NA, it says A3/B4 and as far as I know, A5 is not suitable.
Those euro specifications don't apply to us cars though. But I think most recommendations here are A3 equivalents.



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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by MoVolvos » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:24 am

Mikele82 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:37 pm

I live in portland
summer 60-90f
Winter 30-60
Should I do 5-40 or 5-30 or 10-30?

XC70 2004
Use to live in the East Bay, Nor-Cal. Temperatures were similar to Portland, except there were lengthy periods in the mid 90's (EDIT: never below mid 80's) during summer days and in the mid to high 30's winter mornings.

The 98 S70 T5 use to sit sometimes for days and then short drives around 7 miles one way. Only the 5W-40 was suitable (excellent) as a year round oil. When (time) you fire up your engine, frequency of use, length of drive will determine if the 5 or 10-30W will be suitable for Portland.

Have tried all sorts of motor oils over the years and don't let oil specific products such as high mileage keep you from experimenting. Experiment with a few that fits your criteria and:

Listen to the start up
During quick on-ramp accelerations
Some WOT's
Engine quietness during highway cruising
Mileage
Oil Consumption

Have been fortunate to have had dozens of cars in the family besides helping others with oil changes and working at Pepboys and Acura, so have experimented with a good variety of oils.

House Brands (Walmart, O'Reilly, Kragens - remember), Volvoline, Pennzoil, Castrol, Amsoil, Redline, Chevron, Shell Rotella, Quaker State, Mobil... MOM - Motor Oil Matters.


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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by erikv11 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:27 am

Rotella 5w-40 would be a great choice for a turbo car in Oregon. There are often rebates available for this oil too, do some searching.


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Re: Engine Oil recommendation ?

Post by MoVolvos » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:46 pm

erikv11 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:27 am
Rotella 5w-40 would be a great choice for a turbo car in Oregon. There are often rebates available for this oil too, do some searching.
Checking some old post it looks like a few members have had excellent experience with the Rotella and it's really the only oil I use now. For those who are not familiar and will do research on this oil here is a bit of information in the fine print.

Rotella T6 changed their packaging several years ago. On Amazon you can still purchase the Original Packaging on the same page selling the New Packaging.

However, if you read the fine print API SN is missing on the back of the New Packaging although Reps from Shell said the formulation has not changed. The reason the API SN is missing is because it was to make way for their new Shell Rotella Gas Truck Full Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil for Pickups and SUVs which has an API SN Plus rating.

I couldn't find the back label for the Original Packaging. O'Reilly's link below is to the Original Packaging but the link is to a brochure of the New Packing and does not have the SN also. But don't worry they overlooked removing the SN in the Product Information. Hopefully they'll leave it there for awhile.
https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/ro ... true&pos=1

Product Information

Warranty: Manufacturer's Defect Warranty
Unit of Measure: Each
UPC: # 21400410268
Oil Composition: Synthetic
Viscosity Grade/Weight: 5W-40
Container Size: 2.5 Gallon
High Mileage: No
ACEA Specification: E9
API Designation: CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, SN
Fuel Type: Diesel
Racing: No
GM Dexos(TM) Compatible: No

Compatibility

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Here is the New Oil. I'll provide feedback after I replace the factory oil with this in the 2019 Atlas.
Shell Rotella Gas Truck Full Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil for Pickups and SUVs
https://www.amazon.com/Shell-Rotella-Sy ... way&sr=8-4

If you are doing research and catch that, which I didn't till recently, don't worry it is still the same formulation.

Marketing People :roll: .


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