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V70R guys - I'm considering a V70R, what should I be wary of and looking for?

Post by - Pete - » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:01 pm

I'd say I'm pretty comfortable & (intimately?) familiar with the P2 V70's & XC70's.

R's are new to me though. I've only driven 2 or 3 SR's, both manual & 5-speed autos and it was ages ago.

When looking at a M66 V70R, what (in addition to all the usual non-R things) sorts of things should I be looking for?

It seems to be extremely well cared for, but I haven't seen it in person or climbed underneath it or driven it yet.

I have ViDA, but not a fat clue how to use it, so that will not be of use. I will be checking it out via ELM327 best I can.

What I do know about it is the original owner was one of the very first R owners to do the IPD stage one tune, & the car has had a few updates & revisions to that over the years. Intake is stock with the homemade runner that many owners added, sucks air from behind the drivers fog light. Exhaust is stock with the resonator cut out & replaced with pipe.

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Re: V70R guys - I'm considering a V70R, what should I be wary of and looking for?

Post by - Pete - » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:23 pm

The only real reason I decided to post this at all was that as these cars age, historical known problems remain but new "issues" tend to present themselves. I couldn't find a recently posted thread on the topic & all the experts here have always been so above & beyond helpful I just figured some new data would help shoppers looking for VR's or SR's.

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Ok, so slave cylinder & pressure plate seems to be something to be conscientious of. I have no qualms against removing the M66 if the pressure plate & slave are bad, but how do you know (other than leak or clutch "feel") if they are?
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Re: V70R guys - I'm considering a V70R, what should I be wary of and looking for?

Post by abscate » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:31 am

That’s a big plus to buy a well cared for R. My non-scientific view from these pages is that Rs tend to be either cherry or trashed, little in between.

Nothing special about 300HP other than the smile factor; everything is well within the engineered limits for long life. An R with an M66 is just happiness, especially in Sonic Blue or Ruby Red
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Post by - Pete - » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:36 am

That's been my exact experience with looking at these over the years as well - nearly perfect or severely had the snot beat out of it. I've come very close to acquiring 2 low mile, nearly perfect VR's & they've been snatched away. The car was owned & maintained by someone who did European delivery, then briefly sold to another chap who owned it a short 3k miles, currently well under 150k.

I even got in contact with the original owner & he was marvelously full of info on how the car was cared for, right down to how he drove it and what his trip lengths typically were. That's a huge thing for me & these cars - short trips = all the spinning & shaking metal stuff under the hood doesn't get hot enough to purge the engine of the gunk & any moisture that creeps in after shut down. PO did oil changes with synthetic Mobil 1 every 3,750 since doing European delivery. He said when he would start the engine, he wouldn't drive it until it was fully warmed up.

Sure wish I had X-Ray vision to take a gander at the condition of the collar sleeve & BG input splines. Oh, he did have a drain plug installed on the BG for easier gear oil changes.
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Re: V70R guys - I'm considering a V70R, what should I be wary of and looking for?

Post by - Pete - » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:12 am

I had some time to look the car over pretty thoroughly.
The exterior & interior are very, very clean. Much more-so after I detailed it.

Here's what I know it needs, and also what I'd encourage other prospective shoppers to look closely for, especially with an M66.

Needs:
Lower control arms (bushings shot)
Front spring seats (& possibly top plates)
Rear (both) 4C struts/shocks blown out & caked with oil & debris (yet no suspension messages in the message center)
Bevel Gear is wet, appears to be coming from passenger (right) side seal
Fuel filter
Haldex filter & AOC oil change
Spark plugs - original owner evidently changed them out extremely regularly & according to his ritual they are "due"
Manual trans oil change (last done at 90k I believe)
Parking brake shoes etc replaced

So I should have well under $1k of parts to buy to make it significantly closer to perfect.
I never expect the seller's "all it needs is a new owner!" type statement to be even remotely close to true.
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Re: V70R guys - I'm considering a V70R, what should I be wary of and looking for?

Post by E Showell » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:15 pm

Head gasket.
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Re: V70R guys - I'm considering a V70R, what should I be wary of and looking for?  Topic is solved

Post by - Pete - » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:43 am

Here’s what I ended up doing to the car. The only two things I missed during my initial “inspection” of the car (on a Minneapolis city street) were the passenger side tie rod end link & a drivers side ball joint.

The rest I used as a bargaining chip to get the out of pocket way down. ;)
Overall it’s about as close as you can get to a perfect VR (up here, anyway). I’d never be able to afford a perfect one that already had all the important stuff addressed on it.

Oil/filter change
Haldex filter & AOC oil
Bevel gear & rear diff oil
Trans fluid
Lower control arms replaced
Ball joints replaced
Front spring seats & top plates
Rear 4c shocks replaced
BG passenger side axle seal
Spark plugs
Fuel filter
Air filter (removed hose thing)
Parking brake R&R
Blasted/high temp painted rotor centers
Dipstick
Right tie rod end link
Probably a collar sleeve in the near future
Restore & Refinished applied
Rust inhibitor sprayed

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Post by abscate » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:43 am

Sweet, that’s an example of the good one!h

Don’t forget to plug in the throttle body when you do the PCV!
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Post by - Pete - » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:31 am

It's amazing to me that insurance for it, comp/collision & full glass, is actually cheaper than our AWD V70.
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Re: V70R guys - I'm considering a V70R, what should I be wary of and looking for?

Post by KurtL » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:11 pm

I bought my '05 V70R with 101K 3 years ago.
Here is what I have done myself:
1. Multiple auto transmission flushes
2. Replaced front and rear 4C struts
3. Fuel filter
4. Replaced some of the ignition loom
5. Spark plugs
6. Replaced aftermarket intake with stock
7. Replaced hatch struts
8. installed missing bottom engine pan
9. Bled brakes
10. Replaced front control arms
11. Headlight module and bulbs
12. Strut mounts

I had the following replaced:
1. Front Haldex bevel gear with a used one
2. Radiator
3. Thermostat housing
4. Purge Valve
5. Some PCV hoses

With my experience with this and my old 01 V70 I would consider the front end including control arms to be a problem along with the radiator and possibly heater core.
The V70R has been more dependable than the 01 V70, I think Volvo hashed out some of the bugs by 05. I have 121K on it now.

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