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V70 pulling to the left

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V70 pulling to the left

Post by V850B5254T » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:49 am

Hi everybody,

My 2007 V70T aut. 282.000km (~175.000 miles) pulls to the left more often than not.
An example:
At a flat straight road, I remove my hands from the steering wheel.
The steering wheel turns ~3° to the left and the car follows.

I have changed this:
- Top bearing in McPherson
- Springs
- Dampers
- Whishbones
- The fluid in the power steering fluid reservoir, the old fluid was brownish

and have had a full 4 wheel alignment done at a workshop.

Further: now and then I hear a distant 'klonk' noise from the front. It not loud and is as much felt as heard.
I have tried to provoke the noise to appear without much luck.
It appears usually when driving straight after a turn, acceleration or braking.
I have heard it once when leaving my driveway at very low speed, with the steering wheel full left and over the small ramp onto the street.
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Is there anyone in this forum who can provide good advice for solving this problem?

Regards from Denmark
oakey


Now:
Volvo V70T2 2007
Volvo S60T2 2005

Before:
Volvo 850T stc. 1996
Volvo 940T stc. 1998
Volvo 850 stc. 1994
Volvo 240 stc. 1988
Volvo 240 van. 1981
Ford Granada Van 1973
Renault 4L 1969
VW T2 1970
Morris Mascot 1970
Renault 4L 1962

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Re: V70 pulling to the left

Post by MoVolvos » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:26 am

The alignment on my S80 is correct and drives straight but a little acceleration will pull it the left and will settle back again.
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It cheap and most older cars will need it anyways.
Poly Front Subframe Bushing Insert Kit or Similar Kit from Parts Sweden
https://www.ipdusa.com/products/8969/12 ... 68-3507923


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Re: V70 pulling to the left

Post by Georgeandkira » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:21 am

You must admit ~3º isn't much.

How long ago did you change your "wishbones" (aka Front Control Arms)?
If they came with rubber bushings which, a) have aged or b) were cheap to begin with, poly bushings will help.
I never quantified any wandering or torque steer in my 2002 but I do know the poly bushings gave me a great, solid feel.

As MoVolvos said, give the subframe poly bushing upgrade a shot. You might do it first as it is so easy to do.
I put those very ones in my '07 and felt an improvement.
The improvement was not as large as that from the poly control arm bushings but still very real.



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Re: V70 pulling to the left

Post by vtl » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pm

Check your rear subframe bushings, especially the front large one, to which the stay is connected. The car may be aligned properly, but when it gets to the road the worn bushing slacks and changes the toe angle of the tire.

Also does your car have Nivomats? The Nivomats have to be pumped up before the alignment is performed.


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Re: V70 pulling to the left

Post by V850B5254T » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:40 am

Georgeandkira wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:21 am
You must admit ~3º isn't much.

How long ago did you change your "wishbones" (aka Front Control Arms)?
If they came with rubber bushings which, a) have aged or b) were cheap to begin with, poly bushings will help.
I never quantified any wandering or torque steer in my 2002 but I do know the poly bushings gave me a great, solid feel.

As MoVolvos said, give the subframe poly bushing upgrade a shot. You might do it first as it is so easy to do.
I put those very ones in my '07 and felt an improvement.
The improvement was not as large as that from the poly control arm bushings but still very real.
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
About angle:
Maybe the angle is 5º or 7º, - I cant measure it while I' driving :D
When the problem is present, I have to keep a firm hand on the wheel to make the car drive straight.
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About parts change:
All parts mentioned have been changed in connection with the problem, - within the last month.

Regards
oakey


Now:
Volvo V70T2 2007
Volvo S60T2 2005

Before:
Volvo 850T stc. 1996
Volvo 940T stc. 1998
Volvo 850 stc. 1994
Volvo 240 stc. 1988
Volvo 240 van. 1981
Ford Granada Van 1973
Renault 4L 1969
VW T2 1970
Morris Mascot 1970
Renault 4L 1962

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Re: V70 pulling to the left

Post by V850B5254T » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:49 am

vtl wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:16 pm
Check your rear subframe bushings, especially the front large one, to which the stay is connected. The car may be aligned properly, but when it gets to the road the worn bushing slacks and changes the toe angle of the tire.

Also does your car have Nivomats? The Nivomats have to be pumped up before the alignment is performed.
_______
Hi, thanks for your reply.

About rear subframe:
I have considered, but ruled it out as it is the steering wheel that rotates to the left when I leave it alone.
I will look into it again.
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About Nivomat:
The original Volvo Nivomat I have installed in the car can not be pumped up.
It is a shock absorber with 'all included' together with softer springs.
The shock absorber has some kind of internal pump that levels out the ride height when driving and when loaded.
No load = no action.
As I understand, the geometry of the rear suspension does not change much from unloaded to loaded.
Anyway, - that is my understanding.

My thank to you
oakey


Now:
Volvo V70T2 2007
Volvo S60T2 2005

Before:
Volvo 850T stc. 1996
Volvo 940T stc. 1998
Volvo 850 stc. 1994
Volvo 240 stc. 1988
Volvo 240 van. 1981
Ford Granada Van 1973
Renault 4L 1969
VW T2 1970
Morris Mascot 1970
Renault 4L 1962

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