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my 2002 S 80 engine surged

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my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by KCooney » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:12 pm

a few months ago, my pristine 2002 S 80 engine surged while slowing down on the brakes when pulling into my garage. we could not stop the car and it drove through the back of the garage and into the living room, totaling my car and causing thousands of dollars worth of damage. I am trying to have Volvo take responsibility but their "inspection" showed no damage to the ignition system. I see that this engine surging has happened many many times, and may be related to ETM failure or?? Is that part of the ignition system or something else?

They of course will not show me the report. any help would be useful, thanks, Kathryn

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Re: my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by MoVolvos » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:39 pm

KCooney wrote:
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a few months ago, my pristine 2002 S 80 engine surged... Kathryn
What engine was yours?
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Re: my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by KCooney » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:04 pm

The service records and the back of the car say T 5, but the window sticker says "75th Anniversary Edition 2002 S 80 T6"

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Re: my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by KCooney » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:10 pm

window sticker also says MODEL: 2002 Volvo S80, 2.9 liter, 6 cylinder, Turbocharger, Geartronic 4 speed electronically controlled automatic/manual transmission with lockup torque converter, electronic fuel injection.

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Re: my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by June » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:32 pm

KCooney wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:04 pm
The service records and the back of the car say T 5, but the window sticker says "75th Anniversary Edition 2002 S 80 T6"
My 2002 S80 T6 was a Anniversary edition. The few anniversary editions made were all 2.9 Twin Turbo equipped. It is a real shame if the insurance company totaled it. I don't believe the 5 cylinder S80 was available until the 2003 year model here in the USA. June
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Re: my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by SuperHerman » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:08 pm

I assume you filed an insurance claim with your insurance company for the car and the house damage. Without getting legal and assuming facts - generally speaking once you turn it over to insurance they handle the claims and have various rights. You have to ask them. That is generally how it works in my state.

The point is - if the car has a defect, your insurance company has the right to pursue the claims if you filed a claim with them (again that is how it generally works in my state). Again without knowing your policy, state law and avoiding giving legal advice there are situations where you can take control of the situation. You really have to talk to your insurance company and keep escalating until someone tells you what your rights are under your policy.

Of course it would not hurt to contact legal counsel in your state - that may be the safest approach. So, the only advice I would give is to contact your insurance company and local legal counsel.

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Re: my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by KCooney » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:57 pm

I have the salvage. It was only hood and the bumper and side fender damage but estimates to fix are over 8500. My insurance opened 3 separate claims for both cars and the house. I have over 15,000 in deductibles and they screwed me over on the value. My sister was hurt in the wreck. I am an attorney and know about the 1999 through 2001 recall which is not related to my incident. Volvo sent so.eone to look at it and only said it was not the ignition system.
..I am asking what other modules or parts could cause this surging??

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Re: my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by June » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:40 am

KCooney wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:57 pm
I have the salvage. It was only hood and the bumper and side fender damage but estimates to fix are over 8500. My insurance opened 3 separate claims for both cars and the house. I have over 15,000 in deductibles and they screwed me over on the value. My sister was hurt in the wreck. I am an attorney and know about the 1999 through 2001 recall which is not related to my incident. Volvo sent so.eone to look at it and only said it was not the ignition system.
..I am asking what other modules or parts could cause this surging??
The car records data, ie. the black box. That is one way to see what the car was doing at the time of the crash.

I know of no issue with the ETM or sudden acceleration issues with that car or any other Volvo car. You may be confusing Volvo with Toyota/ Lexus cars.

Even the 99-01 recall cars didn't have sudden acceleration issues. More like stall problems, and not accelerating properly as the issue due to worn contacts internally in the ETM causing blank spots in accelerator petal position.

Your 02 has the same ETM and engine as my 2004 S80 T6. I'm at 194K miles on the original ETM, nor did the my 2002 have any problems. I wish you well with your search. June
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Re: my 2002 S 80 engine surged

Post by SuperHerman » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:01 pm

Okay - hypothetically speaking, in my state the insurance company is in charge of all claims once the claim is tendered. One would have the right to pursue their deductibles from the defendant at the end. A claim would be made against Volvo and the records of their findings subpoenaed. The information they collected from any module or black box would have to be turned over unless some privilege is asserted. Any injured party would most likely have a personal injury cause of action and similar rights of discovery. It all depends on how the policy is written and what settlements occurred. You, as an attorney, or counsel you hire would have to figure this out.

Many moons ago I was involved in litigation against one of the big three, at the time, due to faulty brakes. After failing to turn over relevant documents pursuant to a court order, the day before a hearing on sanctions, the company settled the matter. No documents were ever produced but the client was made whole.

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