+1 to this!
Agreed, my V70R is NOT maneuverable at all. I miss my Miata... that car could turn instantly, easiest thing to maneuver ever. I just rarely drove that anywhere in particular. That was usually just something to take out for a drive to beat around on back roads.j-dawg wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:43 pmThis has been the opposite of my experience. My W123 and 2x W124s have been much, much more maneuverable than my V70. I often have to do a three-point turn into a spot in parking lots. The steering hits its stops way earlier than any other car I've owned.
If those are the numbers I can't explain it, but my car is legendarily hard to maneuver.
In parking lots P80s are bad, but P2s are by far the worst. My brother's S60 in a parking lot is like trying to park a freight train... it takes several tries to get into a spot if you don't come in perfectly. All new suspension components now too... still creaks and struggles to turn to lock. My mom's XC90 is the same but it actually turns to lock, also without the noises . Just has a very large turning circle. Even my cousin's 240 is easier to park than the P2s.
My dad's E39 puts all these Volvos to shame... and that's a pretty big car.