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Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:21 pm

Pete, that car must have been neglected before you got it.

I went back into the records and I have a fairly new Bosch fuel filter under there, so there's that. I also found record of oil changes, starting at 54.6k. Maybe.....we might assume the first owner had an expensive car and took care of it....? Files show Castrol 10-30, Penn 5-30, Valv 5-30, M-1 5-30, M-1 0-30, and then almost all M-1 after that.
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Then we bought it at 125k. I see some 10,000 mi gaps in there, unless there's a Jiffy Lube receipt missing. I used Castrol Edge 5-30 and have changed it twice.

Just bought $75 of secret sauce Toyota 3309 ATF, ouch (12 liters). And lookie here, Porter!...the nice people at ipd included axle bolts with their shiny new ball joints! I can just put them in now, right, I'm not using old control arms. A 2" galv pipe fits perfectly over the boot, with a cap to hammer on. Let's try it!
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

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I can just put them in now, right, I'm not using old control arms.
Wut a dope....they press into the hub, not the control arm.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by - Pete - » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:10 pm

Nah, not neglected. Just not a knowledgeable owner. Technically he followed the book on oil changes @ 7.5k. You just cannot do that interval if you’re driving such short distances & never getting stuff hot. After I dropped the oil pan & cleaned the motor bottom to top & did PCV I realized that the flywheel has begun spitting teeth out so had to then drop the trans to replace that.

Do you have an inspection camera or borescope/endoscope? Or any way to peek inside the oil pan (drain hole) when you dump the oil prior to your trip? That will be the most telltale.
You can get wireless cameras that work on your phone online for $20-30. The HF ones truly belong in the trash.

The ball joints go in pretty easy, but you’ll probably need to have your knuckle off the car & in a vise. Leave the plastic boot protector on if they came with them.

The very first time I had to put ball joints in I was at our cabin in the middle of nowhere & had to use the screws to pull the ball joint into the knuckle. It worked but I wouldn’t advise doing that. You could use screws as alignment dowels.

Edit: one other thing you could do is have an old cloth over your oil drain pan so you can see what comes out for particulates/junk. I usually use an old 5-gallon bucket & take an old wife beater & bungee cord it across the top to “filter” the junk out of the used oil.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:06 pm

Welp, she's back on the ground on all four wheels, new control arms and ball joints. Man, that's a bear of a job, no wonder those guys use air guns. Big bolts, high torques, limited clearance, hand tools. Funny, the worst ones to get off were the tie rod end ball joint nuts - somebody must have blasted those on there with air tools. Anything I put back together earlier with anti-seize came apart nicely. I didn't have to do any straps on control arms to pull them down, just horsed the hub down and in and aligned the lower strut bolt hole. Tapped the bolt in and everything went back together. Maybe that's an easier XC vs V70 thing, I don't know. Also no motor lifting for clearance underneath - used short sockets with wobble joints as well as box end wrenches. Slow and careful is slow.

Oh, and the 2" galvanized pipe with a cap on it was genius to pop the ball joint back into the hub. 2 1/2 lb hammer, no problem. I will look up the member who suggested that and thank him.

So far transmission is drained and refilled with 7L of ATF. That green clip return hose joint would NOT come apart and I wasn't about to force it with big leverage. I just drained and filled twice, running it and shifting in between. I'll just keep doing it at oil changes. Also replaced dead fog light bulbs.

More tomorrow. I'm tired and sore.

There's an oil leak on the front/forward side of the block, towards the (US) passenger side, down by the pan. Not the head. Making a mess of the plastic cable wrapping and running down the pan slowly. Hard to see in there, but the only things I see on the block there are the PCV box, a sensor of some kind, and the dipstick o-ring. If you pass the rubber glove test and have a new PCV, there shouldn't be any oil pressure down there, should there? It doesn't seem to be the pan joint.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:00 pm

Oh, another couple of things about the control arm job relative to the FCP Euro replacement video -

Many of my bolt head sizes were different than what he shows. Maybe differences in model years, or AWD vs FWD?
My car had no steering stop to fall off the caliper. He shows a loose bar as part of the caliper assembly.
My car had no steering bump stops on the control arms to swap over - no holes or fittings.
Putting the new ball joints in the freezer overnight seemed to help when installing them.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by - Pete - » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:33 pm

Great job, nice to have stuff like that behind you. It’ll handle better & tires will thank you. In an emergency situation, the way the car reacts to steering input could have very different outcomes - worn vs new arms/bushings.

V70/R control arms have the steering stops/bars like in the video, XC control arms do not.

Yes, I’ve noticed that 04’s tend to use more substantive fasteners/heads than 05+. Maybe I should say 06+, since I haven’t actually worked on an 05 yet.

Could be your crank seal leaking. Seems unlikely at your miles, but far from impossible. Easy (relatively) to replace. If indeed, it is that, I wouldn’t worry about replacing it just for for your trip. Just keep an eye on oil level. Might take a peek behind the timing cover for oil/evidence.

You kinda learn to judge various leaks based on how they spot the floor.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by abscate » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:58 pm

I’ve found front end work is dreamy with a 24 inch breaker to crack bolts, And my compact Bosch impact to zip them off. The wear and tear on wrists and hands is reduced to near zero

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by Rattnalle » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:02 am

I use my one metre breaker bar that I have in the car for removing wheel nuts for things that are stuck. Nothing's put up much of a fight yet. If I can reach it.

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:22 am

"All y'all are funny!"

Front end question -
What all did you change in this job that requires a new alignment? Is it that little bit of play in the lower strut bolt holes that would change camber?

Yes, more leeeverage would have been very useful. I'm sore.


The tools I used. Some long box ends would have been useful. I hook two together for more leverage - old trick.
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Bushing rubber was cracked and torn on a couple of them.
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3/16 x 12" drift / punch worked well. Popped off fairly easily.
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Galv pipe to seat the new one was brilliant.
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Shove hard down and in towards the engine, get that bottom bolt in. May have hurt a rib on the sharp edge of the rotor.
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