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Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:50 pm

It's on and just snug, thanks. I am the Overtightener it seems. My sons bring this up sometimes.

So this can be done without taking off the intake. Disconnect the vac hoses on the left / drivers end of the intake, pull the plastic intake pipe to the airbox, put a light upside down low, between the cables, hoses, and starter, plus have a little flashlight.

Reach in with your chest on the airbox. Pretty much one hand. I used a tiny 1/4" ratchet to carefully turn the clamp screws. You can also look down through the intake gap between the #2 and #3 runners to see what your fingers are doing. Place the clamps so you can get to the screws to tighten. I used a very very long screwdriver to hold the clamps (from above) where I wanted them while tightening.


So, we're just back from Sea Trial #2, out the freeway with Mrs BB to witness. Also found some bumpy roads. All very smooth, good shifting, no more oil leak. ATF on dipstick is pink. Loaded up the spare and covered the battery. Found a missing nut on the heat shield below the trunk under the spare - minor rattle, but it's not the exhaust yay!

I'm feeling much better about this car!
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by abscate » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:34 pm

No pressure on the pCV so as soon as the clamp squeezes the rubber hoses, you stop torquing

1200 miles in a P2 will sure best anything Asian as a ride.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by - Pete - » Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:43 pm

I just woke up from a nightmare; your j-hose tear was the star of it. I also dreamt of a new avatar - in it was a dozen eggs on a nice looking Volvo grill in the background, and in the foreground was a potato perched on top of an ignition coil, perched on top of a front wheel bearing assy, perched on top of an outline of some state I couldn't make out. Back to sleep.



Edit: I can't get back to sleep. It was terrible. Your J-hose was chasing me down an old dirt road, me running away from it clutching a 2.5 gallon jug of Rotella T6 & a bag of 6 Mahle filters/drain plug washers. It was snarling nasty, profane things to me through its jagged, crooked & torn mouth, saying how it was going to force me to run dino lubricants & do oil changes at 10k+ intervals...and shorten my heat cycles to 1 mile/heat cycle! Oh Mylanta!!! And can you guess what the horrific j-hose was going to do with all the sludge that this produced?!?

Ugh, I'm going to need at least 2 hrs therapy in addition to my normal amount this week.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:46 pm

I'm only awake because I'm streaming the Rolex Daytona 24! Middle of the night is a cool time in a long endurance race.

Abscate - I know you're right, even though I have no experience with Asian cars. Correction --- I worked for a Datsun dealer one summer in high school. Drove dozens of 240Z's. That was fun.

My autocorrect wants me to type Abscess, yuk.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by abscate » Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:20 am

I eventually added Abscate to the library to stop that autocorrect.

I will be laughing all day from that one, Pete!

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:10 pm

Well, I am back and very pleased with a flawless performance from Betty the Volvo! Only checked the oil the whole trip. Did not touch the 90 lbs of tools, tarps, wheel chocks, jack stand, plywood, greasy old clothes, or spare fluids!

The night before (I know, I know) I added a half liter of ATF after it has settled from a couple of days driving around. Pink on the dipstick. I replaced 7L total, just drain and fill. I checked the angle gear oil and it appeared full. Brownish, but not bad. I pushed a tube down into it and pumped new oil in and let it dribble, maybe mix a little new in for now. And I replaced that lower engine torque mount, which is so easy to do, and the old bushing was completely separated. Thanks for the quick delivery, FCP!
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I'm rewarding her with an order from the ipd sale this past weekend - aluminum skid plate, sway bars, subframe bolts, and intercooler hose. I have the subframe inserts here, so I'll do all that at the same time.

I kept track of mileage and she was in the 22 to 24.5 mpg range. We were going 80+ all day, at altitude, climbing passes, with a huge headwind most of the day (30-35 and gusts). So I don't know if this is typical or expected. I wish this one had some more instrumentation, like a boost gauge, charging, oil pressure. In my old one, and the Audi, you can tell when you're up on boost and it starts sucking gas. If you can hover just below that speed, you can do very well and not stress things.

So, 80 to 85mph, 2800 to 3000-ish rpm? Boost? I was hoping for upper 20's maybe.


A couple of observations, getting used to this car:
It could use some better lumbar in the seat. Maybe previous owner smashed that and the bottom down..??
I can see maybe how they (Volvo) have tuned the suspension more and more to comfort and isolation as the cars have been moved into more luxury markets. I miss some of the crispness of my 850. More taut, more direct road feel. Maybe that's in my subframe bushings, I don't know. Maybe softish A/S tires as well.
Good visibility in spite of newer car big posts.
Pretty quiet, even in big wind.
Automatic no-glare mirrors are pretty cool.
Cigarette lighter not charging the phone.
More plastic, more rattles.
It is nice to drive though, and rolls straight down the road with fingertip control. No vibration.
I'm always backing off to coast back to 80, funny! Lucky as well.
Motored through a near whiteout on top of Monida Pass in ID. 20 degrees F, headwind, thick fog, snow-covered ground, no horizon, blowing snow and ground blizzard...mmmm! Front and rear fogs on, nice to have. Tracked really well, no issues. Freezing fog on windshield was confusing the auto wipers. I pushed all the heat up to the windshield. She was covered with grey-white slop at the next stop. Washed it all off as soon as we were home.

But the BEST part of the trip was retrieving my son at the airport and meeting his new puppus in the morning. He is so sweet (the dog), a snuggler, and a good traveler. Already asking to get out and pee (regularly!)

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He's fantastic and loves everybody. His parents are very nice dogs.
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So thanks to all for your advice and encouragement.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by - Pete - » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:57 pm

Awesome, super glad the car did well. I'd take a close look at the color of the oil on the stick as an attempt to see how much junk broke loose being up at temp for that long.

ATF is properly checked with engine running, car in Park, on level ground & trans hot. There is but a .2 L variance between needing to add ATF and it being filled to the maximum. AW55 are robust, but you don't want to run very long with them overfilled.

Boost gauges are a pretty fun, inexpensive & easily installed addition. I love having them in the cars, even the old crappy ones. Just nice to see where you are at, or for troubleshooting. Stock on the LPT is 7-8 psi, so not very much. The LPT is tough, but isn't an ideal heat dissipator, so wouldn't want to be pulling a heavy trailer up a mountain.

As far as gauges, you can monitor in real-time via ELM327. I have magnetic vent mounts in the cars so you can monitor handsfree with your tablet or your phone. You can monitor things like trans & coolant temp, boost, intake air temp, AFR, DC charging status, data-log, etc. I've never seen mention made of being able to monitor oil PSI in real time, not even on ViDA. Although, next time I have the laptop in the car I intend on checking if that's true or not.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by abscate » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:12 pm

You are paying for that 85 mph

My turbo face slaps me above 60 mph with a big drop in mileage, from near 30 to 25 mpg
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:34 pm

abscate wrote:
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You are paying for that 85 mph

My turbo face slaps me above 60 mph with a big drop in mileage, from near 30 to 25 mpg
Interesting, 60. That would take a while to get anywhere around here.

On an easy trip, I got the 850T up to 30mpg once or twice. The 240T was not good at highway mileage - we got 20 consistently.

Pete, the oil is still amber to very light brown. Checked the ATF hot and running several days in a row, decided to add just a bit up to full.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by Rattnalle » Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:09 am

The XC with it's lower gearing*, higher ride height and AWD isn't very economical.

My V70 routinely gets ~30 or even above on longer trips even at higher average speeds.

My total average since I bought the car four years ago is 28.

*The V70 does almost exactly 100 mph at 3000 rpm. Perfect Autobahn at night cruising speed. Any faster and the car gets a bit nervous.

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