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Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

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Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by CIK7 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:39 am

So I heard that p80 seats are interchangeable. Is this true? Well I'm strongly considering getting a 94 850 turbo. I have 2 seats left from the junk white XC I had last year this same time. But I want to put super comfy seats (at least one for myself) in place of current ones. Are the p80 t5 more comfy than lesser trims? I'm sure the R 'hugs', but is it more comfy than the rest?
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2001 V70 Ba white (sold)
2009 Impala LT 3.5L (sold)

Plans for my 98 XC: 16T/18T, P2 M66 swap, logo/badge delete excl grille

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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by Azik09 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:42 am

Front seats are interchangeable. BUT! Seats from 1998-2000 cars have electrically activating side airbags. SIPS from older cars are activating by impact, they have gunpowder detonator.
If my English is bad, please correct me :oops:

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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by CIK7 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 pm

Azik09 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:42 am
Front seats are interchangeable. BUT! Seats from 1998-2000 cars have electrically activating side airbags. SIPS from older cars are activating by impact, they have gunpowder detonator.
Yeah I thought about that. But I think it started in 1999+ because all of the 98 models I've seen and owned have that mechanical one you are referring to. Yeah I figured I could convert the 98 to electric (I'm good with 12v wiring), but then that defeats my liking for the mechanical airbags. Also it would probably be more work and pitb than it's worth. I am actually considering buying the necessary parts to add P2 V70 a/b/c pillar airbags. Also for the last but of my post, do you know if the t5/r models have more comfy seats than V70 xc?
1998 V70 XC black ($1K trade, Mi:144/147K, immaculate, remodel in progress, 2 updates coming soon)
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2001 V70 Ba white (sold)
2009 Impala LT 3.5L (sold)

Plans for my 98 XC: 16T/18T, P2 M66 swap, logo/badge delete excl grille

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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by Azik09 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:09 am

CIK7 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 pm
do you know if the t5/r models have more comfy seats than V70 xc?
I really don't know. Many people, many preferences.
CIK7 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 pm
But I think it started in 1999+
Maybe I'm wrong
If my English is bad, please correct me :oops:

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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by abscate » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:30 am

I think the side bolster material on the R seat is different but the seat structure and padding is the same?

Parsing differences in comfort on Volvo seats is a tad incremental.

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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by misha » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:50 am

CIK7 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 pm
But I think it started in 1999+
Nope!
850 and s,v,c,xc70 have different sips airbags...at least on EU market cars.
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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by Cookeh » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:37 am

misha wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:50 am
CIK7 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 pm
But I think it started in 1999+
Nope!
850 and s,v,c,xc70 have different sips airbags...at least on EU market cars.
Nope. EU market cars had mechanically triggered ones until late-97 MYs, then they became electronically triggered. 92-97 are all exchangeable without loss of SIPS or SRS errors.

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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by CIK7 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:11 pm

misha wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:50 am
CIK7 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 pm
But I think it started in 1999+
Nope!
850 and s,v,c,xc70 have different sips airbags...at least on EU market cars.
Both of my 98 have the SIPS instead of the electronic ones.
1998 V70 XC black ($1K trade, Mi:144/147K, immaculate, remodel in progress, 2 updates coming soon)
1998 V70 XC white ($50 cash, junk, donor for my black XC, off to jy soon, PM for parts)
2001 V70 Ba white (sold)
2009 Impala LT 3.5L (sold)

Plans for my 98 XC: 16T/18T, P2 M66 swap, logo/badge delete excl grille

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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by misha » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:57 pm

Cookeh wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:37 am
misha wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:50 am
CIK7 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 pm
But I think it started in 1999+
Nope!
850 and s,v,c,xc70 have different sips airbags...at least on EU market cars.
Nope. EU market cars had mechanically triggered ones until late-97 MYs, then they became electronically triggered. 92-97 are all exchangeable without loss of SIPS or SRS errors.
Latest '97 850 (M4.4 from the factory)...bought brand new....mechanicaly triggered sips airbags.EU market. ;)
Electronically triggered sips airbags started in '97 with introduction of s,v70 cars...since s,v70 started in '97 for EU market and that was transitional year from 850 to s,v70.
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'91 Citroen XM 2.0 SI /fully equipped/mandarine red metallic
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'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
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Re: Need info on 850 and P2 driver seats

Post by misha » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:02 pm

CIK7 wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:11 pm
...Both of my 98 have the SIPS instead of the electronic ones.
850s from late '95 & s,v70 ...both have SIPS(Side Impact Protection System)airbags.....difference is that 850 have them mechanically triggered and s,v70 have them electronically triggered...BUT designations are the same SIPS airbag.

850s from '91-'95 have only SIPS without airbags.
'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
'91 Citroen XM 2.0 SI /fully equipped/mandarine red metallic
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

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