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'99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by E Showell » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:48 am

So, let's have your opinions. The Shaggin' Wagon is giving me the occasional no-start. I know it isn't the battery since all dash lights light up like the proverbial Xmas tree. I turn the key and get lots of lights and no, and I mean zero sound. Last time this happened was about a week ago after a gas fill up. I rowed the shifter back and forth about 20 times rapidly and it restarted. The shift lock release button was incredibly difficult to depress.

Sound like a dirty/failed/failing PNP switch? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by abscate » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:32 am

You can try jumping it with the under hood starter but be aware that the connector is upstream of the PnP

That would eliminate ignition switch , electrical part though. I have a spare one of those, by the way
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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by E Showell » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:18 pm

I don't think the starter is dead since I'm pretty sure the original starter has been replaced (without removing the fan shroud) -- and for my next trick, I will be extracting the transmission through the rear tail gate . . . .
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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by scot850 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:32 pm

what about the antenna ring. That inhibits the starter from running. Try cleaning the contacts to start with and check for cracking in the plastic casing causing breaks in the circuit.

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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by abscate » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:03 pm

scot850 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:32 pm
what about the antenna ring. That inhibits the starter from running. Try cleaning the contacts to start with and check for cracking in the plastic casing causing breaks in the circuit.

Neil.
I think the Shagging Wagon is a 99 with DENSO - Immobilizers inhibits starting but not cranking.
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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by E Showell » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:10 pm

Steve -- Correct -- DENSO-equipped.
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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by misha » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:31 pm

When it will not crank and start in "P"...start it in "N".
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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by E Showell » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:41 pm

Tough to depress the shift lock release button to move the shifter.
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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by misha » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:12 pm

EU cars doesn't have that button.
Doesn't it suppose to override the gear selector?
It should not have anything to do with p'n'p switch.
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Re: '99 V70 FWD, Auto, Base, 235K miles -- Toasted PNP?

Post by E Showell » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:01 am

Won't start in neutral. Not even turning over. Feels like no juice getting to starter, or bad starter.
'98 V70 NA FWD 5 spd, silver sand metallic (sold)
'99 V70 NA FWD Auto, dark blue (actively for sale)
'99 S70 NA FWD Auto, black (sold and resurrected -- Don't cry for me Argentina . . . )
'07 S80 3.2 FWD Auto, Barents Blue Metallic
'06 V70 R AWD Auto, Sonic Blue Metallic
'04 XC70 Ruby Red Metallic
'95 855 auto (sold)
'86 245 manual (sold)

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