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Re: Any good reads ?

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My current read is going a little further back in history.....
I will say that this translation is a bit lacking in punctuation ( did someone say Oxford commas ? ), but a good read non the less.
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Serious reading! Nice.

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One for you B.B. from out of section "A" ( for architecture ) .....
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I wolfed down Fight Club a few months ago. It's really not appreciated as highly as it should be... probably because of the movie.

There's a bit of Orwell in it, as well as Irvine Welsh. It's one of those books that I want to immediately re-read after 0-ing out my memory of it.




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abscate wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 11:22For the Cold War history buff….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells

There is an interesting story of how the comm link was actually found which I had better check yo see if it’s declassified ?
Super interesting. The CIA and NSA's various undersea cable taps in the 70s were nuclear powered:
Eventually, more taps were installed on Soviet lines in other parts of the world, with more advanced instruments built by AT&T's Bell Laboratories that were radioisotope thermoelectric generator-powered and could store a year's worth of data.[2]: 189 
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matthew1 wrote: 04 Jul 2022, 14:59
abscate wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 11:22For the Cold War history buff….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells

There is an interesting story of how the comm link was actually found which I had better check yo see if it’s declassified ?

Super interesting. The CIA and NSA's various undersea cable taps in the 70s were nuclear powered:
Eventually, more taps were installed on Soviet lines in other parts of the world, with more advanced instruments built by AT&T's Bell Laboratories that were radioisotope thermoelectric generator-powered and could store a year's worth of data.[2]: 189 
It's the most basic form of nuclear power: just a decaying nuclear mass generating heat, like on the deep space probes we've sent out. But still...
There wasn't anything high-tech about how they found the first comm line to deploy the gear, they just got close enough to shore to spot the "Cable Crossing" sign.
The Soviets used that same small nuclear energy source on lots of stuff, some of it still laying around in various wilderness spots.
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Speaking of recovery stories, "The CIA's Greatest Covert Operation" ( Sharp ) is about the Pacific adventure to get a sunken Soviet missile submarine.
https://kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-1941-2.html
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nukevault/ebb305/index.htm

There was a film made about it, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2042455/
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Three more Cold War submarine history books I liked:
"K19 The Widowmaker" by Peter Huchthausen. 2002 Also made into a movie.
"Scorpion Down" by Ed Offley. 2007.
"Red Star Rogue" by Kenneth Sewell with Clint Richmond. 2005

Back in the 1980's when I worked for a large oil field services company, I started hearing coworkers talk about the Glomar Explorer recovery of a submarine. At first I thought it was a myth, but I later read it was true. The oil field and ship workers did not keep secrets well.
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volvolugnut wrote: 05 Jul 2022, 13:32 Three more Cold War submarine history books I liked:
"K19 The Widowmaker" by Peter Huchthausen. 2002 Also made into a movie.
"Scorpion Down" by Ed Offley. 2007.
"Red Star Rogue" by Kenneth Sewell with Clint Richmond. 2005

Back in the 1980's when I worked for a large oil field services company, I started hearing coworkers talk about the Glomar Explorer recovery of a submarine. At first I thought it was a myth, but I later read it was true. The oil field and ship workers did not keep secrets well.
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"Scorpion Down" is pure unadulterated horse manure. I'll bet that guy has a very interesting theory about how the moon landings were faked. Those of us in the Submarine community were well aware of what happened to Scorpion not long after she was lost. The Soviets had nothing to do with it.
The Glomar story broke in the popular press pretty early - at least the point of the mission - and the author of the book mentioned above details some of the people who were directly involved in the recovery.
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foggydogg,
All I know about submarines I have read in books. Thanks for the professional point of view.
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