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99' S70, 5-speed, Immobilizer Problem. End of the road for Matilda?

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Re: 99' S70, 5-speed, Immobilizer Problem. End of the road for Matilda?

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We have it another hour today

Reproduced symptoms. Scanner reads VIN from CDM, and parameters from dash show up and change as toggled

Engine temperature reported as -40C bottom of range. Noted from wiring that the ECT reports directly from the ECM so that also points to a non responsive ECM (not necessarily non-working)

We swapped in Jane Bonds ECM, for a 2000 NA m56….same symptoms

We checked the CANBUS Aline’s for, CDM to ECM for continuity , all good

Then I noticed the main relay was not pulling in. 850 LPT comfirmed this.
We jumped it with a paper clip, no joy.

Then the relay started pulling in again?????????

Could that be the intermittent ???
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Try this link for P80 S70 NA wiring diagrams:

https://portal-diagnostov.com/en/root/r ... -diagrams/

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scot850 wrote: 04 Oct 2025, 10:12 Try this link for P80 S70 NA wiring diagrams:

https://portal-diagnostov.com/en/root/r ... -diagrams/

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Sorry about that, strangely when I tried first time it went straight in. Should have copied the files. I'll look some more and try to extract from Vida. I seem to recall I had issues accessing wiring diagrams last time I tried.

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Ok, these 2 have access to the diagrams. The first has a free 3 day trial. and the 2nd is the Norwegian Volvo Club:




chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://forum.vccn.no/dokumentasjon/Vol ... n_3_39.pdf

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Note. Mathilda’s ETMclicks on power up but does not run the complete self-test I am used to.

Video here

viewtopic.php?p=632156&hilit=ETM+video#p632156
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Post by abscate »

Moved Neil’s post….😊


Yup. that is not what it should be doing. The possible issues I am sure you have considered are:

1) ECU - I believe you have swapped in an alternate to see what happens. I assume you have the same result with that.
2) ETM - If you have not swapped that out, that is where I would be looking to or a wiring issue to the ETM from the ECU.

Neil.

Swapped in both Shaggs and Jane’s ECU and no communication to either. We are going to try Mathilda’s ECU in a good running car.
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Here is the harness tracing diagram , eeeks
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EEK is right.
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Good thing I happen to have a complete stripped out DENSO harness in my garage….
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