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polyurethane upper engine mount gave extreme vibration

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nuyrks70
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Volvo Repair Database polyurethane upper engine mount gave extreme vibration

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2000 S70 Se
When I got this car, the rear upper engine mount was broken so I replaced it with the stock insert. About 1 year later I found that again, it had completely severed itself from its connecting points inside the mount. So I ordered a polyurethane replacement from FCP and installed it.
I read a few posts that mentioned vibration issues, They were right. It was beyond slight, it was extremely noticable and immposible to leave in due to the interior rattling and engine noise transmitting through every component in the passinger compartment. Im not that criticle but this was unacceptable.
So I returned it and ordered the new updated OEM mount from FCP. it is a complete replacement of the aluminum engine attachment with a rectangular rubber insert already installed. it was slightly more but well worth it. In it went and the Noise and Vibration were GONE!!
This has been my experience and and I dont mean to condem a stronger performance product but it was so overwhelming inside the car that I cannot reccomend it as a possible choice..
It is easy to twist the mount during install so pay attention to its position when you do, That will insure that no stress or movment of the mount will exeed it's travel limit.

1)After tightening, The Washer’s edge should be parallel to the aluminum mount insuring a perfectly straight alignment when at rest

2)The upper and lower outside corners of the Square aluminum washer should be Resting against the shoulders of the black standoff with equal distance on top as well as the bottom. This will insure a straight alignment of the rubber mount within the housing.

3)The steel washer easily rotates when installing it, dropping either corner inside the black standoff and twisting the rubber insert, creating undue tension and pressure.

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Post by tjts1 »

It sounds like your other engine mounts are failing. The stock engine mount replacement shouldn't fail in 1 year. When the 2 lower engine mounts start to fail, it transfers the load onto the top engine mount which it wasn't designed to handle. With the lower mounts not doing their job to stabilize the engine, your upper mount will vibrate more than normal.
Ambitious but rubbish

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Post by nuyrks70 »

Tj,
Thanks for the responce and Your right on the money with your explanation. If your other mounts are bad this will fail immediately But I believe my focus is on THAT mount being weak by design. Under normal conditions it may last, but beat it a little and failure is the outcome........
Therefore the reason why Volvo redisigned this mount for these cars.

When I changed it the first time I found the lower stabilizer bushing was bad as well, so I changed both lower engine mounts, the lower stabilizer and the upper engine mount at the same time.

Also you have to consider that this vehicle is in use on the streets of Brooklyn, NY which is BRUTAL on suspension components. it isnt getting its mileage on the Smoooth highway at 65 MPH, Its getting its Butt kicked every 5 seconds by potholes that can make you loose all the fillings in your mouth especially with the S70 suspension being on the hard side. More than one dealership told me that NYC driving is considered Extreeme conditions and should follow that maintenence schedule as well. They also said its very common to see that mount fail.

I guess they were replacing this mount often themselves which was a good enough reason for a newly disigned mount from Volvo that hopefully will last a little longer..
Thanks
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