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1998 S70GLT what besides Propane to detect vacuum leaks?

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macs70GLT
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Year and Model: S70 GLT 1998
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1998 S70GLT what besides Propane to detect vacuum leaks?

Post by macs70GLT »

Currently I'm working on my son's 940 to find & fix an audible vacuum leak. (posting here due to common issue with 850 and S70 series).

I hear this high pitched whistle clearly, have been using Propane all over the area with no noticible change in idle. The idle is running high ~ 1500 rpm. I can get it lower running the AC which helps. I have directed the propane at all visible hoses and intake manifold interfaces, also at the injectors.

So far I have replaced a few hoses with no luck. Will continue replacing the old crumbly ones.

Is there something other than Propane that works better in terms of getting the idle to surge?

Thanks - appreciate all the help.

Mike
Lars: 1988 245, 250K mi retired
Son of Lars: 1998 S70 GLT, 225K mi retired
Beast Mode: 1995 940T, 213K mi
Son's car: 1998 V70 GLT, 182K mi
Hans: 2002 Audi A4 QMT, 142K mi

rmmagow
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Post by rmmagow »

I'm pretty sure I used brake cleaner or spray starter to do this before. Can't remember which or probably both at one time or another.
1998 V70 AWD 228K - Daily Driver
1985 Mercedes Benz 300D - 197K Off Road For Now Brakes Failed
1998 S70 135K - FOR SALE
2003 GMC Sonoma - 114K - POS
1958 Mercedes Benz 220S 66K Original and never to be restored.
2006 Saturn ION 5-Speed - 150K Son's weird little easy to fix car

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Post by rmmagow »

960 got an IAC? That would be my most suspect.
1998 V70 AWD 228K - Daily Driver
1985 Mercedes Benz 300D - 197K Off Road For Now Brakes Failed
1998 S70 135K - FOR SALE
2003 GMC Sonoma - 114K - POS
1958 Mercedes Benz 220S 66K Original and never to be restored.
2006 Saturn ION 5-Speed - 150K Son's weird little easy to fix car

macs70GLT
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Year and Model: S70 GLT 1998
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Post by macs70GLT »

rmmagow wrote:960 got an IAC? That would be my most suspect.

Thanks rmmagow - I'll look more closely at the IAC. the car is a 95' 940T. The frustrating part is I can hear it clearly, just can't get the source to suck up the Propane - or as mentioned the idle is too high for the Propane to make a difference.

I have brake cleaner as well, probably give that a try tonight.

Thanks

Mike
Lars: 1988 245, 250K mi retired
Son of Lars: 1998 S70 GLT, 225K mi retired
Beast Mode: 1995 940T, 213K mi
Son's car: 1998 V70 GLT, 182K mi
Hans: 2002 Audi A4 QMT, 142K mi

rmmagow
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Post by rmmagow »

Vacuum cleaner hose to the ear and move it around. It bugger and more flexible than a straw. Length of garden hose might help too. Any longish floppy tube that can be fished around a bit.
1998 V70 AWD 228K - Daily Driver
1985 Mercedes Benz 300D - 197K Off Road For Now Brakes Failed
1998 S70 135K - FOR SALE
2003 GMC Sonoma - 114K - POS
1958 Mercedes Benz 220S 66K Original and never to be restored.
2006 Saturn ION 5-Speed - 150K Son's weird little easy to fix car

rmmagow
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Post by rmmagow »

bigger, not bugger :-)
1998 V70 AWD 228K - Daily Driver
1985 Mercedes Benz 300D - 197K Off Road For Now Brakes Failed
1998 S70 135K - FOR SALE
2003 GMC Sonoma - 114K - POS
1958 Mercedes Benz 220S 66K Original and never to be restored.
2006 Saturn ION 5-Speed - 150K Son's weird little easy to fix car

jose456891
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Post by jose456891 »

I use carb cleaner

macs70GLT
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Post by macs70GLT »

Thanks for the suggestions.

Finally found the leak tonight - it is the intake manifold on the underside by # 1 cylinder.

I used a cutoff piece of garden hose to get close to the area. Then used a can of Fuel Injector cleaner (similar to carb cleaner I think). By the way, I just cut up the short 6' garden hose that goes from the house to the hose spool then replaced it with a new hose ~ $6.

Anyway, just need to get a new manifold gasket & wait for my son to return from his trip. I'm slowly teaching him some of these things as they happen on his car.

Thanks

Mike
Lars: 1988 245, 250K mi retired
Son of Lars: 1998 S70 GLT, 225K mi retired
Beast Mode: 1995 940T, 213K mi
Son's car: 1998 V70 GLT, 182K mi
Hans: 2002 Audi A4 QMT, 142K mi

rmmagow
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Post by rmmagow »

Sweet! Recent PCV job?
1998 V70 AWD 228K - Daily Driver
1985 Mercedes Benz 300D - 197K Off Road For Now Brakes Failed
1998 S70 135K - FOR SALE
2003 GMC Sonoma - 114K - POS
1958 Mercedes Benz 220S 66K Original and never to be restored.
2006 Saturn ION 5-Speed - 150K Son's weird little easy to fix car

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Post by erikv11 »

Ah good find indeed, thanks for posting up with the solution.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

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