Parts to hoard for 1998-2000 S/V70?

Post by **FireFox31** » 01 Sep 2021, 21:03

Which parts should we be hoarding for our 1998-2000 S/V70 in anticipation of them going end of life? Which have short lifespans or common failures so would need replacing? Which must be bought new and which are perfectly fine from a junkyard? Also, which parts are "good to have on hand", easily available from FCP when trying to increase an order to $49 for free shipping?

I'm finding parts for my 2000 V70 are starting to go end of life. Other parts (like A/C components) have increased drastically in price in the past few years. That's why I'm doing a full rehabilitation of my 200k mi 2000 V70 with Volvo parts while they're still available.

Parts to buy new due to common failure:
Power steering reservoir
Heater core
A/C evaporator
Rear bumper brackets
Tailgate wiper arm?

Parts which are "good to have":
Dashboard switch light bulbs

Post by **erikv11** » 01 Sep 2021, 21:48

Good to have: I have harvested a bunch of the following from junkyards because they are so easy to get and are almost guaranteed to have been working when the jy car crashed or whatever. And I have used many of them in my P80 cars for both repairs and troubleshooting:

Fuel pump - great to have a couple of these on the shelf. But I buy the Volvo-branded gasket new.
Fuel pump relay
Cam position sensor
Crank position sensor
Throttle position sensor
Engine coolant temp sensor
Baro sensor
Coil (for 99+ it would be coil packs but those can be sketchy on a jy car)
Grab the coolant bottle and cap if it looks newish and is Volvo branded - yours is about to crack
V70XC walk-me-home main lighting relay
EVAP check valves
Caliper slide pins from factory brake calipers - these are stainless while rebuilts have pot metal.
relays, fuses

What do I wish I had hoarded more diligently? Factory axles from the junkyard. These last forever if rebooted as needed. Take any one you can find that fits your car.

Post by **foggydogg** » 02 Sep 2021, 10:21

PNP switch - the dreaded red "Contact..." at the dealer sites
Master switch in the door

Post by **BlackBart** » 02 Sep 2021, 10:33

These conversations always concern me when I have a favorite old tool or machine that I plan on keeping. You can sand it and paint it, but what about replacing manufactured components?

Well over 20 years ago, we bought a nice set of ASKO washer & drier. Swedish made (!), all stainless steel, smart (adjusts water to the weight in the machine), very efficient water use, smallish to fit inside a cabinet, & modern looking. I read about (and was sold on) the engineering, the toughness, the longevity.... they were designed to last a long time.

So, sure enough an electronic control board went POOF one day. No problem, I'll go to my regular "OEM Volvo" parts supplier!
Nope, out of stock. Out of production. No longer available.

Wut?? That was the whole point of engineering something to last forever, is that you can continue to FIX IT! I was livid that I'd have to toss this genius washer because of some easily replaceable part. I hunted around and found an ebay seller with one control board, new, in the plastic, for pretty cheap. They knew nothing about appliances, I think they bought a warehouse of spares and sold them off.

Put it in, it works fine several years later. But what next? I could hoard hundreds of dollars of parts for it, it really conks out, and I throw away a stainless steel machine and all those parts. Sunk cost I guess.

Post by **volvolugnut** » 02 Sep 2021, 12:23

BlackBart wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 10:33 These conversations always concern me when I have a favorite old tool or machine that I plan on keeping. You can sand it and paint it, but what about replacing manufactured components?

Well over 20 years ago, we bought a nice set of ASKO washer & drier. Swedish made (!), all stainless steel, smart (adjusts water to the weight in the machine), very efficient water use, smallish to fit inside a cabinet, & modern looking. I read about (and was sold on) the engineering, the toughness, the longevity.... they were designed to last a long time.

So, sure enough an electronic control board went POOF one day. No problem, I'll go to my regular "OEM Volvo" parts supplier!
Nope, out of stock. Out of production. No longer available.

Wut?? That was the whole point of engineering something to last forever, is that you can continue to FIX IT! I was livid that I'd have to toss this genius washer because of some easily replaceable part. I hunted around and found an ebay seller with one control board, new, in the plastic, for pretty cheap. They knew nothing about appliances, I think they bought a warehouse of spares and sold them off.

Put it in, it works fine several years later. But what next? I could hold hundreds of dollars of parts for it, it really conks out, and I through away a stainless steel machine and all those parts. Sunk cost I guess.

This is the problem most people face in some form at the first major repair of any product. Lots of people just sell it, trade it or store for some later unknown repair process. Others, like most on MVS, will repair what they can afford until they get to something beyond their personal threshold of cost and effort. Then they will make the nearly inevitable choice to sell, discard, or store.

volvolugnut

Post by **BlackBart** » 02 Sep 2021, 13:43

The discard option is such a waste. Frustrating when you get there.

Post by **abscate** » 03 Sep 2021, 05:10

Firefox, I not seeing big price changes on p80 AC stuff at FCP

COMPRESSOR $250
Evap. $100
Condensor $85
heater cores. $50-100
Drier $25

Hard lines have always been expensive but those are good junkyard picks

Post by **ZionXIX** » 03 Sep 2021, 06:13

I'm thinking of adding motor mounts to the my list. By the time I actually purchased the nice ones they will probably be NLA and I'll be forced to buy some awful aftermarket brand.

Post by **abscate** » 03 Sep 2021, 08:32

Motor mounts - failry cheap and if you do them now, you can keep your OE as long term spares.

Realistically I want 5 more years out of my P80s so I think that will do it for me.

Post by **FireFox31** » 03 Sep 2021, 12:14

abscate wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 05:10 COMPRESSOR $250
Evap. $100
Condensor $85
heater cores. $50-100
Drier $25

In 5/2018, I bought a bunch of Volvo branded HVAC components from eEuroparts. Current prices at FCP are much higher:
Heater core 9144221, was $120, now $286
A/C evaporator 9171781, was $249, now $397
(Yes, the Nissens versions are much cheaper and they may be the same as OEM, but I didn't know that in 2018).

These price increases inspired me to make this thread. If I never install these parts, maybe I could sell them to someone who needs them. Parts websites may want to stop carrying certain parts, but we could keep spares for ourselves and sell them if we never need them. Also, I'm taking special care of new parts which could be resold used, like my brand new C70 jeweled headlights and turn signals which I had coated with paint protection film.

I saw another post which mentioned taking junkyard the brake booster and master cylinder. It looks fairly accessible.