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Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

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Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by XC70Rider » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:31 am

While doing the timing belt last month I also flushed out the coolant and installed a new water pump and thermostat. The coolant was gold so might of been Zerex G05. I flushed all the old coolant out with a garden hose then ran distilled water thru system 4 times to clean out the system.

Here are the new cooling systems parts installed

>Aisin Water Pump 524581
>Volvo Antifreeze 31439821
>Beck Arnley Thermostat 143-0851

She would previously reach only 188F then down to 185F when thermostat opened. After installing new parts she now reaches 192F during acceleration and 202F during bumper-to-bumper city traffic. It only drops down to 188F when aftermarket thermostat opens.

I know water alone will keep it cooler. You presume it's the aftermarket thermostat or maybe getting warmer with a higher % of antifreeze in the system?

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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by prwood » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:59 am

The thermostat has a specified opening temperature, and there is often a range of possibilities that fit the same model of car. It may be that you swapped to one with a higher opening temperature. I know on my '01 V70 2.4T the thermostat opens at 195F, and the normal ECT range is 195F-215F.
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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by XC70Rider » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:02 pm

The housing appears to be identical so I'll try re-installing the OEM thermostat and ECT sensor to see if temp changes.

To swap those parts does any of the new coolant need to be drained?

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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by abscate » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:03 pm

You will lose a bit, like 500 mL if you don't drain down. Cover the alternator, rinse off, top up when done with 50-50.
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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by XC70Rider » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:20 pm

abscate wrote:
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You will lose a bit, like 500 mL if you don't drain down. Cover the alternator, rinse off, top up when done with 50-50.
I'll get another gallon at the local Volvo dealership tomorrow. With the cooling system thoroughly cleaned out I don't want to risk reusing a half liter of drained coolant.

I've reused coolant using coffee filters and paint screens on cheaper vehicles but not this time. I've already installed at least $1,500 of parts for repairs and preventive maintenance. The only general maintenance remaining is the OEM suspension and exhaust.

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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by XC70Rider » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:09 am

While driving 200+ miles to and from Boston the engine not only got hot but the MAP is reading hot air intake. When I installed the Beck/ Arnley Thermnostat with the Asin Water pump and Volvo coolant last February I did notice the valve wouldn’t open until it reaches 192f and then only drop to 188f. Now the air intake is also extremely warmer.

When driving on level highway the intake temp was 20f above ambient temperature. Until last week the intercooler always brought the air intake down to outside ambient temp.

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It was 70f when raining yesterday morning when I took this snapshot on my smartphone application. As you can see the air intake is 91f while driving a mere 67mph. When the valve opens to allow the radiator to cool the engine the air intake would also drop a few degrees.

I opened the hood when I got home and the over-the-engine pipe was extremely hot along with the engine. The electrical tape on the coil harness is melting off. I checked the 2 intercooler pipes and couldn’t find any disconnections nor rips in the 2 Reinz rubber hoses I installed on the over-the-engine pipe. The MAP was seated correctly.

I’ll fully remove both intercooler pipes for inspection. No OBD11 Codes appear so I’ll hook up VIDA to see if any DTCs are present.

Is the hot engine causing the air intake to increase?

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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by Rattnalle » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:12 am

XC70Rider wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:20 pm
abscate wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:03 pm
You will lose a bit, like 500 mL if you don't drain down. Cover the alternator, rinse off, top up when done with 50-50.
I'll get another gallon at the local Volvo dealership tomorrow. With the cooling system thoroughly cleaned out I don't want to risk reusing a half liter of drained coolant.

I've reused coolant using coffee filters and paint screens on cheaper vehicles but not this time. I've already installed at least $1,500 of parts for repairs and preventive maintenance. The only general maintenance remaining is the OEM suspension and exhaust.
Keep the exhaust until it actually breaks. Replacements are of poor quality compared to the one piece original. Often they don't actually need replacing during the cars life.

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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by XC70Rider » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:17 am

Rattnalle wrote:
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Keep the exhaust until it actually breaks. Replacements are of poor quality compared to the one piece original. Often they don't actually need replacing during the cars life.
Already replaced the exhaust in early May and that didn't cause any issues. What I'm facing now is a hot air intake and an engine heating up higher than normal while driving slowly on the highway during a cool day.

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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by Rattnalle » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:23 am

XC70Rider wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:17 am
Rattnalle wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:12 am
Keep the exhaust until it actually breaks. Replacements are of poor quality compared to the one piece original. Often they don't actually need replacing during the cars life.
Already replaced the exhaust in early May and that didn't cause any issues. What I'm facing now is a hot air intake and an engine heating up higher than normal while driving slowly on the highway during a cool day.
They last much shorter but work just as well until then.

Hot air intake does sound a bit suspicious. All funnels in place so it takes air from outside the engine bay as intended?

As for engine temp you've really only got circulation and thermostat opening temp to check. Did you have any luck putting the old thermostat back on?

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Re: Engine Temperature Increase after Water Pump, Thermostat and Coolant replacement

Post by XC70Rider » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:29 am

Rattnalle wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:23 am
XC70Rider wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:17 am
Rattnalle wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:12 am
Keep the exhaust until it actually breaks. Replacements are of poor quality compared to the one piece original. Often they don't actually need replacing during the cars life.
Already replaced the exhaust in early May and that didn't cause any issues. What I'm facing now is a hot air intake and an engine heating up higher than normal while driving slowly on the highway during a cool day.
They last much shorter but work just as well until then.

Hot air intake does sound a bit suspicious. All funnels in place so it takes air from outside the engine bay as intended?

As for engine temp you've really only got circulation and thermostat opening temp to check. Did you have any luck putting the old thermostat back on?
I did pop off and inspect the air tube from the grille to air box. That connection was fine. The funnel in the grille appeared to be in place but I'll inspect it further today. I'll remove the air filter out of the box, the air tube to turbo, and both intercooler pipes for inspection. I'll also hook up VIDA and see if any DTCs are present. No OBD11 codes appeared.

I haven't swapped the OEM thermostat yet. If nothing wrong with the air pipes nor DTCs then I'll drain a few liters of coolant and re-install the OEM valve. I got 2 extra thermostat gaskets.

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