Generic P80 AC clutch shim , bread clip, zip tie thread

C@lvin · Post by **C@lvin** » 27 Jul 2010, 19:10

I see now. I wish I could tell you if it matters. It doesn't look like it would make any difference, but I honestly don't know and my clutch fix was too far in the distant past for me to remember that fine of a detail. I am trying too think about the physics of what is pushing what in which direction in that picture and what the moving parts are. When you turn the clutch to all the visible parts rotate?

Of course, one side of me is very curious why you can't get that space open enough to slide in the clip then the other side says, "just try it and see if it works" (before applying the glue - just in case). Sorry I can't be more helpful.......

osmium · Post by **osmium** » 27 Jul 2010, 19:35

C@lvin wrote:I see now. I wish I could tell you if it matters. It doesn't look like it would make any difference, but I honestly don't know and my clutch fix was too far in the distant past for me to remember that fine of a detail. I am trying too think about the physics of what is pushing what in which direction in that picture and what the moving parts are. When you turn the clutch to all the visible parts rotate?

Of course, one side of me is very curious why you can't get that space open enough to slide in the clip then the other side says, "just try it and see if it works" (before applying the glue - just in case). Sorry I can't be more helpful.......

Everythng to the left of the clutch gap rotates.

There a fix on volvospeed showing shims placed where the right arrow points.

If i can't get then to the left of the washer, I'll put them on the right
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Luckily, then heat has broken for now!

-os

C@lvin · Post by **C@lvin** » 27 Jul 2010, 20:01

If it works to on the right let us know so we can add that to our collective knowledge base.

Glad the heat has backed off for you.

Regards,

osmium · Post by **osmium** » 27 Jul 2010, 20:11

C@lvin wrote:If it works to on the right let us know so we can add that to our collective knowledge base.

Glad the heat has backed off for you.

Regards,

Sure thing.

Is there a minimum the cluth gap can be? The gap is 0.035+ (largest feeler I have). The clips are ~0.030. So it will be less than 0.020 if I use them.

I might try some utility knife blades I have that are 0.020.

-os

Post by **jreed** » 28 Jul 2010, 05:14

I had the same problem sliding the shims between the rubber bumper/washer and the spring, so I put brass shims to the right (as shown in Osmium's picture above). I used cyanoacrylate super glue to hold the shims. It's been working for about 4 days so far. I'm keeping my eye on them.
This is the second time I've applied shims (the first time was with polyethylene shims and Duco cement... two of the three shims flew out after about 2 days of short trip driving around town).

C@lvin · Post by **C@lvin** » 28 Jul 2010, 06:54

osmium wrote:Is there a minimum the cluth gap can be? The gap is 0.035+ (largest feeler I have). The clips are ~0.030. So it will be less than 0.020 if I use them.

VADIS says the clutch gap should be .3mm to .5mm. I think you are measuring in inches. If so, then yes, .02 inches (.5mm) is the maximum end of the acceptible range and .01 inches (.3mm) would be the minimum.

osmium · Post by **osmium** » 29 Jul 2010, 05:22

C@lvin wrote:
osmium wrote:Is there a minimum the cluth gap can be? The gap is 0.035+ (largest feeler I have). The clips are ~0.030. So it will be less than 0.020 if I use them.
VADIS says the clutch gap should be .3mm to .5mm. I think you are measuring in inches. If so, then yes, .02 inches (.5mm) is the maximum end of the acceptible range and .01 inches (.3mm) would be the minimum.

Thanks for the info.

My first attempt using the utility knife blades failed as 2 of the flew out on the test drive. Must not have gotten enough contact with the super glue.

-os

grushton · Post by **grushton** » 16 May 2012, 13:31

I have a 2001 s80 that was having the same issues discussed on the site. A light tap with a screwdriver on the clutch and it would re engage. The bread clips were too large so I fashioned a kidney shaped piece of plastic and inserted them (3) behind the rubber spacers using a flat head screwdriver to push the clutch toward the compressor. A touch of super glue to stabilize the plastic was all that I needed. Checked the gap that brought it to .4 mm (spec) and it has been working like a charm. I live in Phoenix, AZ so a capable AC is a must. Saved a ton of Money-Thanks Matt!

greekbuckeye · Post by **greekbuckeye** » 02 Jul 2012, 14:09

Any chance you could post a picture of what the S80 fix looks like? I am about to have to do this and a photo would be immensely helpful. Thanks.

BlackThunder · Post by **BlackThunder** » 30 Jun 2015, 15:06

Alright so I've been working with this for a while. I was originally trying to get the bread clips and/or zip ties INTO the gap. I turned on the car and the AC clutch went around once then stopped.

I went back and read this post again and realized that I misunderstood and that it should be on the outside. Right? See photos:

: Bread Clip on the 850 NA AC Clutch

I forced 3 bread clips under those spots on the clutch and it didn't work. SO then I added zip ties after watching one of Robert's videos on another post. Still nothing. Am I putting this stuff in the right spot?
Are the small Yellow zip ties in the correct locations for optimum success? Do I need thicker zip ties?
See photo:

: Yellow Zip Ties small and Bread clips

Generic P80 AC clutch shim , bread clip, zip tie thread

Re: AC Bread Clip Fix