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Matty Moo
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Probably none. I use Restore in mine and it does slow my oil consumption quite a bit.
I don't want to turn this into a snake oil debate though. Slick 50's earlier marketing campaigns turned a lot of people away from their product.
I don't want to turn this into a snake oil debate though. Slick 50's earlier marketing campaigns turned a lot of people away from their product.
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MoVolvos
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I've tried Redline, Mobil 1 and the reg stuff besides Restore which is good for a slight temporary compression boost. (SWEPCO 306) A couple of Porsche, Ferrari and Viper guys told me about this and I've been using it for 14 years. UPS, United and Chevron use their various products as I know the local sales guy. Swepco 306 (SWEPCOUSA) has a 100,000 change intervals in the big rigs as they provide an Oil Analysis program for anyone who wants it. Their 714 Transmission oil comes standard on all Porsche tranny's I believe, this is according to Andial. A friend's GT3 use to get serviced there.
I used the 714 in an 1988 Mazda that stop driving on the freeway it came back to life. Use it on a delivery truck with an Allison Transmission and was able to go from a top speed of 65 mph fully loaded to 75 mph. Real old 24' Bobtail.
When I was in the Food Manufacturing Business the shops that built large Stainless Steal equipment used their oils for drilling stainless as bits were costly and did not last nor cut well with other oils.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub ... er=2018525
http://www.paragon-products.com/Swepco_ ... /sw306.htm
Holbert Racing of IMSA GTP fame and other racers use to get their engines built here.
http://www.andial.com/
I use to change it out at 7.500 miles but now just once a year and you do not feel the tired oil start up to new oil start up with this oil like the standard 3,500 regular stock or Synthetics. Your engine and turbo will love you! One Final note: Head Gasket Leaks from Mobil One Synthetic Use:
1987 Integra
1988 Camry
1993 E320
1998 Galant
Blessings,
BKM
I used the 714 in an 1988 Mazda that stop driving on the freeway it came back to life. Use it on a delivery truck with an Allison Transmission and was able to go from a top speed of 65 mph fully loaded to 75 mph. Real old 24' Bobtail.
When I was in the Food Manufacturing Business the shops that built large Stainless Steal equipment used their oils for drilling stainless as bits were costly and did not last nor cut well with other oils.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub ... er=2018525
http://www.paragon-products.com/Swepco_ ... /sw306.htm
Holbert Racing of IMSA GTP fame and other racers use to get their engines built here.
http://www.andial.com/
I use to change it out at 7.500 miles but now just once a year and you do not feel the tired oil start up to new oil start up with this oil like the standard 3,500 regular stock or Synthetics. Your engine and turbo will love you! One Final note: Head Gasket Leaks from Mobil One Synthetic Use:
1987 Integra
1988 Camry
1993 E320
1998 Galant
Blessings,
BKM
Blessings,
BKM
2008 C30 T5 2.0 M66
2007 S60 2.5T - New Project
2003 S80 T6 Transmission DIED
2000 S70 SE Base - New Project
1998 S70 T5 Prior
1989 240 Wagon Prior
BKM
2008 C30 T5 2.0 M66
2007 S60 2.5T - New Project
2003 S80 T6 Transmission DIED
2000 S70 SE Base - New Project
1998 S70 T5 Prior
1989 240 Wagon Prior
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MoVolvos
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Too Slick to be true (not referring to Slick 50)
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/sho ... co_pg8.htm
Found the article below yesterday.
Excerpt from a Nissan Titan Club Website: Some people are discovering what the Porsche and Ferrari including Race Car guys have known forever.
Swepco oil gains HP!!! We tested this theory!!
http://www.clubtitan.org/forums/showthr ... 584&page=2
Brad had mentioned that the "oil wars" were raging over here so I thought I'd weigh in and let everyone take a shot at me too... I usually spend most of my time here in Performance and IRC-VK56 but I do want to take some time to back up his claim and clarify some points.
* My truck has just shy of 19K miles on it.
* My last 3 oil changes were RP 5W-30 with a new K&N filter each time. Before that all changes were at the dealership.
* I do not run oil more than 3 or 4K, even synthetic, and this last change was right at 3.5K miles.
*The new Swepco oil was also 5W-30 - their 306 Supreme Formula
We did 3 dyno pulls with the old RP and then the tech changed the oil and filter in-place on the dyno to keep from changing the setup and to let the truck cool back down. We did 3 more pulls and there was an immediate 10 HP increase with the Swepco and no other changes. Fact.
Although my truck usually feels like it's running better when I change the oil (or do almost any other maintenance) I can honestly say that I haven't felt a noticeable difference in power after the last 2 RP changes - there was a nice difference changing from the Nissan bulk oil to RP the first time but, not so much since then. Until now...
That said, I did not buy the Swepco to gain hp (although I'm not disappointed and won't give it back), Brad recommended it to me and then I spent a good deal of time on the phone with his buddy, the professional engine builder, discussing what's important to me - lubrication properties and the condition of internal components after extended use in various applications. The engines he has serviced after a life of Swepco lubrication have apparently been pristine internally and required much less attention than others. It's kind of a joke in their shop that they have to break in a freshly built engine with Kendal since it takes too long to get the rings to seat with the Swepco - they run the Kendal for a while, check things out, and then refill with Swepco before sending it out.
Another important thing to note is, Swepco is not primarily a performance or "racing" oil - it is intended for fleet vehicles and heavy/extended use applications to increase longevity and reduce operating costs by reducing maintenance costs (see the link above) - they don't advertise because they don't need to, they already have a huge commercial and government customer base. It apparently happens to work well in high performance applications too though so, it sounds like just what I'm looking for! Only time will tell and I will be getting my oil analyzed as close to 3k miles as possible when I change it. I'll post results if anybody is actually interested in facts.
I would recommend that everyone else continue to use their favorite "pet oil", particularly those I race here in Central Florida - I wouldn't want anyone else to take a chance on an unknown oil like this... (He is being facetious)
Blessings,
BKM
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/sho ... co_pg8.htm
Found the article below yesterday.
Excerpt from a Nissan Titan Club Website: Some people are discovering what the Porsche and Ferrari including Race Car guys have known forever.
Swepco oil gains HP!!! We tested this theory!!
http://www.clubtitan.org/forums/showthr ... 584&page=2
Brad had mentioned that the "oil wars" were raging over here so I thought I'd weigh in and let everyone take a shot at me too... I usually spend most of my time here in Performance and IRC-VK56 but I do want to take some time to back up his claim and clarify some points.
* My truck has just shy of 19K miles on it.
* My last 3 oil changes were RP 5W-30 with a new K&N filter each time. Before that all changes were at the dealership.
* I do not run oil more than 3 or 4K, even synthetic, and this last change was right at 3.5K miles.
*The new Swepco oil was also 5W-30 - their 306 Supreme Formula
We did 3 dyno pulls with the old RP and then the tech changed the oil and filter in-place on the dyno to keep from changing the setup and to let the truck cool back down. We did 3 more pulls and there was an immediate 10 HP increase with the Swepco and no other changes. Fact.
Although my truck usually feels like it's running better when I change the oil (or do almost any other maintenance) I can honestly say that I haven't felt a noticeable difference in power after the last 2 RP changes - there was a nice difference changing from the Nissan bulk oil to RP the first time but, not so much since then. Until now...
That said, I did not buy the Swepco to gain hp (although I'm not disappointed and won't give it back), Brad recommended it to me and then I spent a good deal of time on the phone with his buddy, the professional engine builder, discussing what's important to me - lubrication properties and the condition of internal components after extended use in various applications. The engines he has serviced after a life of Swepco lubrication have apparently been pristine internally and required much less attention than others. It's kind of a joke in their shop that they have to break in a freshly built engine with Kendal since it takes too long to get the rings to seat with the Swepco - they run the Kendal for a while, check things out, and then refill with Swepco before sending it out.
Another important thing to note is, Swepco is not primarily a performance or "racing" oil - it is intended for fleet vehicles and heavy/extended use applications to increase longevity and reduce operating costs by reducing maintenance costs (see the link above) - they don't advertise because they don't need to, they already have a huge commercial and government customer base. It apparently happens to work well in high performance applications too though so, it sounds like just what I'm looking for! Only time will tell and I will be getting my oil analyzed as close to 3k miles as possible when I change it. I'll post results if anybody is actually interested in facts.
I would recommend that everyone else continue to use their favorite "pet oil", particularly those I race here in Central Florida - I wouldn't want anyone else to take a chance on an unknown oil like this... (He is being facetious)
Blessings,
BKM
Blessings,
BKM
2008 C30 T5 2.0 M66
2007 S60 2.5T - New Project
2003 S80 T6 Transmission DIED
2000 S70 SE Base - New Project
1998 S70 T5 Prior
1989 240 Wagon Prior
BKM
2008 C30 T5 2.0 M66
2007 S60 2.5T - New Project
2003 S80 T6 Transmission DIED
2000 S70 SE Base - New Project
1998 S70 T5 Prior
1989 240 Wagon Prior
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KEWROCK
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I don't know about Slick 50, but I will swear by Lucas' goo. My Volvo's transmission was making all kinds of racket in overdrive at about 100k. I drained the pan, put 3 qts. of Dex/Merc and a qt. of Lucas ATF additive. 25 thousand miles later, still not a peep.
With slick50 I do remember back in the late 1980's something about the teflon separating from the mix, or something like that. I'm sure after all these years they'd have figured it out by now.
On the other hand, I saw a Youtube about Lucas motor additive foaming up in the engine.
With slick50 I do remember back in the late 1980's something about the teflon separating from the mix, or something like that. I'm sure after all these years they'd have figured it out by now.
On the other hand, I saw a Youtube about Lucas motor additive foaming up in the engine.
1999 V70R T5 AWD Red
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Speaking of additives, please find attached 3 sheets on the Swepco 714's. Two was given to me by the local rep. I was already using it but was checking it's use for a friend's Honda Odyssey as they (Honda) sorta insist on Honda fluids. Perhaps the Lucas is adding all the stuff Swepco puts in theirs.
- Letter from Transmission Shop
- Attachments
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- Swepco Transmission Physical Analysis
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SWEPCO 714 Transmission Specialty Oils.pdf- Swepco USA Data Sheet
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Blessings,
BKM
2008 C30 T5 2.0 M66
2007 S60 2.5T - New Project
2003 S80 T6 Transmission DIED
2000 S70 SE Base - New Project
1998 S70 T5 Prior
1989 240 Wagon Prior
BKM
2008 C30 T5 2.0 M66
2007 S60 2.5T - New Project
2003 S80 T6 Transmission DIED
2000 S70 SE Base - New Project
1998 S70 T5 Prior
1989 240 Wagon Prior
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jimmy57
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Wasn't Slick 50 the product that ran the ads with oil drained cars running laps? One was an 850 and when it came into the pits and was shown and heard running with no tappet rattle I knew it was not a worthy product. You can't run hydraulic tappet engines without oil and not have tappet bleed down.