since they did not due the drive cycle, you need to do it yourself.
For the next couple of hundred of miles don't push the car at all. drive like an old lady, slow and smooth driving, making sure that the transmission gear changes go smooth, on upward and downward shifts.
What is a reasonable "life" for a 2001 S60?
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Volvo S60: Sorting out ETM vs Transmission Problems
Perfect.jda2000 wrote:since they did not due the drive cycle, you need to do it yourself.
For the next couple of hundred of miles don't push the car at all. drive like an old lady, slow and smooth driving, making sure that the transmission gear changes go smooth, on upward and downward shifts.
That's how my wife says I already drive. Now I have an ever BETTER excuse, but I think I'll tell her it's for a few thousand miles.
Thanks.
Update-
I now have about 300 miles on the car since they reset the adaptations and flushed the old trans fluid.
The car continues to run well (w/ its new ETM) and the transmission is shifting decently. It's not buttery smooth, or absolutely consistent on every shift, but OH so much better, with NO clunks, or slam-shifts, or other funky behavior.
The almost-best part is I am not consistently getting 30mpg in around town with some highway driving (actual calculated after filling tank same place, same method, which almost exactly corresponded to the fuel computer's 30.2mpg), which I consider excellent for a T5. Not exactly sure what others are getting, but it sure beats the 21/22 I WAS getting before the above work was performed.
Thanks to all who made suggestions and guided me through the process!
Bob
I now have about 300 miles on the car since they reset the adaptations and flushed the old trans fluid.
The car continues to run well (w/ its new ETM) and the transmission is shifting decently. It's not buttery smooth, or absolutely consistent on every shift, but OH so much better, with NO clunks, or slam-shifts, or other funky behavior.
The almost-best part is I am not consistently getting 30mpg in around town with some highway driving (actual calculated after filling tank same place, same method, which almost exactly corresponded to the fuel computer's 30.2mpg), which I consider excellent for a T5. Not exactly sure what others are getting, but it sure beats the 21/22 I WAS getting before the above work was performed.
Thanks to all who made suggestions and guided me through the process!
Bob
Which brings up a question:jda2000 wrote:Bob,
Glad it worked out for you, and the tranny shifting will get even better with time
About for how long / how many miles will the adaptation process continue after an adaptation-delete as was done, assuming that the driver is consistent in his driving techniques? I would guess most of the adaptation process is completed rather quickly, then it's kind of "fine-tuned" as additional miles accumulate?
I assume if another driver of different habits started driving the car, adaptation would very slowly change the parameters again to accommodate to his style? (I am guessing the bad ETM, which was changing the engine load factor wildly as the car tried to maintain a constant speed) was seen by the TCM as an extremely erratic driver over the 18mo period that it exerted influence, and changed the adaptations to the evil ones that have now been deleted.)
I also assume that brand new cars have had some sort of a drive-cycle done before delivery to the dealership given that they drive smoothly off the showroom lot, and not like mine left the dealership after the adaptations had been wiped away and the car didn't seem to know which end was up.
My car had 100 miles on the odometer when bought new (and the "In Service" date was almost 3mo before the car was purchased shortening any warranty to my nephew, the original owner, by that amount, unfortunately). I was wondering if some of those miles were the "drive cycle."
Always more to learn and absorb...
Thanks,
Bob
I call bad math! no way is this getting 30+ mph around town...note since the DIM are common to fail our XC70 which has a funky DIM (gauge cluster) reports abnormally high MPH, MPG and such. My Vw turbos 1.8 and Saab turbos 2.0 could get almost 30+ but our T5 nor XC70 get barely 26-27 on the highway...and I drive 65mph and on flat highways (no city) every day.BobbyC wrote:Update-
I now have about 300 miles on the car since they reset the adaptations and flushed the old trans fluid.
The car continues to run well (w/ its new ETM) and the transmission is shifting decently. It's not buttery smooth, or absolutely consistent on every shift, but OH so much better, with NO clunks, or slam-shifts, or other funky behavior.
The almost-best part is I am not consistently getting 30mpg in around town with some highway driving (actual calculated after filling tank same place, same method, which almost exactly corresponded to the fuel computer's 30.2mpg), which I consider excellent for a T5. Not exactly sure what others are getting, but it sure beats the 21/22 I WAS getting before the above work was performed.
Thanks to all who made suggestions and guided me through the process!
Bob
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BobbyC
I stumbled upon this blog because my wife and I just purchased an 01' S60. Our experiences with clunking transmissions sound very similar (even down to the exact times it will happen as you described). Our car has 125K but I was able to investigate and found out the original transmission had been replaced by Volvo under warranty with 22K. Also, I was able to find out that the stop neutral function was removed in 2010 by the previous owner and just before I purchased the vehicle the tranny fluid was changed, not sure by who or how. My plan is to flush one more time and send to the dealer for the adaptations to be reset and a possible upgrade to the B4 cover.
It's been a year since we've heard how your car is doing. Did the transmission continue to "re-adapt" to your driving and shift smoothly? Have the clunks and awkward shifts been eliminated for the time being?
An update would be great as I'm trying to make educated guesses as to whether or not to keep this car.
Thanks for everyone's info on this forum, I'm learning tons!
Mike
I stumbled upon this blog because my wife and I just purchased an 01' S60. Our experiences with clunking transmissions sound very similar (even down to the exact times it will happen as you described). Our car has 125K but I was able to investigate and found out the original transmission had been replaced by Volvo under warranty with 22K. Also, I was able to find out that the stop neutral function was removed in 2010 by the previous owner and just before I purchased the vehicle the tranny fluid was changed, not sure by who or how. My plan is to flush one more time and send to the dealer for the adaptations to be reset and a possible upgrade to the B4 cover.
It's been a year since we've heard how your car is doing. Did the transmission continue to "re-adapt" to your driving and shift smoothly? Have the clunks and awkward shifts been eliminated for the time being?
An update would be great as I'm trying to make educated guesses as to whether or not to keep this car.
Thanks for everyone's info on this forum, I'm learning tons!
Mike
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The B4 servo has nothing to do with any clunking
It's to correct shift flaring, 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th
It's to correct shift flaring, 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th
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2007 V70 2.5T White/Oak 111,000 MILES. Polestar tune, IPD bars, rear spoiler, dark grey Thors, DWS 06, HU850, sub.
Mike, save tons of money.Mikeyp5000 wrote:
My plan is to flush one more time and send to the dealer for the adaptations to be reset and a possible upgrade to the B4 cover.
Mike
get yourself a chinese vida/dice setup for $150 (much cheaper than going to the dealer).
This tool can reset the tranny adaptations and put the tranny in adaptive mode.
Plus you'll end up with a tool that lasts a lifetime and can do lots more for your volvo.
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