which engine oil for both 1997-850 NA and 2001-V70XC

[waynej]

You can get a 5 quart jug of Mobile 1 at Walmart for $26.50. 10w30 gives good wear protection and if you are over 100k miles they have a 10w40 high mileage that repairs leaky seals in some cases.
I buy the German made filters by the case at Eeuro or FCP when they are on sale.

[MoVolvos]

BKM, Please explain how engine oil can have any effect on a head gasket. I have been using Mobile 1 in all my Volvos for years and have never had a bad head gasket. I wish it was as good at cleaning the engine as you claim.

The major cause of head gasket failure is your foot being too heavy before the engine is warmed up to operating temp.

The German's invented Synthetics during WWII for their Winter Campaigns so it has been around for sometime. When Synthetics became popularized in the 90's the content was heavy in detergent. A higher mileage car switching to Synthetics back then caused the Head Gasket to soften via absorption and caused the leaks. Acura Integra, Mitsubishi Galant, Toyota Camry, Benz E320. All those cars had high mileage exceot for the 93 E320 when I switch over and it was through reading or a Mechanic that I became aware of this. That said the Galant and E320 were prone to Head Gasket failure. The leaks in the Camry and Galant were on the edge of the Blocks so re-torquing all the Head Bolts to spec and then some reduced it to a minor seepage !

That said my Manager at Pepboys had a 5.0L Mustang with 150K which he used Synthetic from day 1 and looking into the oil filler cap all you can see was nothing but shiny metal. My heavy use of Synthetics was approximately from 1995 to 1998.

My local Rep use to sell $7,000 worth of Swepco Products to the Chevron Refinery in Richmond Ca when oil production was high. Most motor oils are just fine for the average owner and if change regularly will not have any issues but Volvo owners are not average Joe's. If the question was Superior Oil with verifiable results in the long run or short whether in everyday, racing, commercial or industrial use? I spoke with the Local Rep Al Sine in the RTP area of NC last month when I was in Cary NC and he has been selling Swepco Lubricates for 5 years and he already has a warehouse. Those that use Swepco Lubricates can see immediate results beside financial savings. These include Quarries, Trucking and other commercial and industrial companies. A Turbo Diesel Truck will abuse motor oil than a Turbo Volvo I guarantee! BTW: I recently put the Swepco 15W40 into a friends 2000 plus Odyssey with 175K miles and he has put 10K on it and he says the oil still smells fresh and engine as quite as ever.

http://www.swepcousa.com/lubesite/comments.htm

http://www.swepcousa.com/lubesite/lubes ... _306SB.pdf

Blessings,
BKM
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[erikv11]

Aha, I think I get it now, from digging out info from some of your posts in this thread:

... I use to use Mobil One till I realized it was the cause of 4 headgasket leaks as it was high in detergent. ...

... When Synthetics became popularized in the 90's the content was heavy in detergent. ...

... My heavy use of Synthetics was approximately from 1995 to 1998. ...

No wonder no one is having any head gasket experiences like you are posting here - you aren't having them either, rather you are describing a few instances from 15+ years ago, on oil formulations that no longer exist, as if they happened last week! There is a big difference between Mobil1 *was 15+ years ago* and Mobil 1 *is today* ...

So my impression here is that you try to scare people away from using Mobil 1, and into instead buying a product you sell on the side (Swepco), by citing completely irrelevant evidence. That's pretty crummy.

[waynej]

BKM, SRM and whatever else you call yourself. Why am I seeing the same story repeated on other automotive sites on the web? Could it be you are spamming many sites to try to sell some of your high priced oil? We are lucky, you only found us recently, you have been pushing your product on other sites for years.
I doubt you will convince many people on this site when they find out the cost is $8 to $12 per quart depending on who you buy it from.

[MoVolvos]

Aha, I think I get it now,

Do you?

No wonder no one is having any head gasket experiences like you are posting here - you aren't having them either, rather you are describing a few instances from 15+ years ago, on oil formulations that no longer exist, as if they happened last week! There is a big difference between Mobil1 *was 15+ years ago* and Mobil 1 *is today* ...

Do you know and how does it differs? Maybe cars are now built better, well more cars.

So my impression here is that you try to scare people away from using Mobil 1, and into instead buying a product you sell on the side (Swepco), by citing completely irrelevant evidence. That's pretty crummy.

"Scare" Really?

Most motor oils are just fine for the average owner and if change regularly will not have any issues...

Knowing a knowledgeable Sales Rep and sharing my own experiences and knowledge of a product with everyone makes me a Sales Rep on the side? Do you know my Employer or do you work at a Bank and see my Electronic Transfers from Swepco? We sure have a lot of Volvo Sales Reps on this Site it looks like!

If you really read my Post instead of continually from Post to Post supposedly being able to read my intents you'll see Data from known Reputable Racing Shop/Community, Engineering Firms and other Forums which have had real verifiable experiences with this product. Having been around since 1933 and with Porsche Factory and Volvo Heavy Duty using their products I would say they are not considered a "Boutique Oil".

With that I respectfully request let's get back to sharing our experiences especially if we've found or used something that is Extraordinary and we like for others to receive the same benefits from it.

Blessings,
BKM
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Here are a few:

http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html#Z20

Andial - Porsche Racing use to send their best motors here for modification
http://www.andial.com/pc_trans.html

Independent Volvo Service
http://www.yelp.com/biz/independent-vol ... lnut-creek

When it was Los Gatos Ferrari they purchase 10 case at a time
http://www.losgatosluxcars.com/

When I worked at a USDA Food Manufacturer these folks used Swepco Lubricates during Stainless Steel Cutting and Fabrication
http://www.heatandcontrol.com/

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[MoVolvos]

BKM, SRM and whatever else you call yourself. Why am I seeing the same story repeated on other automotive sites on the web? Could it be you are spamming many sites to try to sell some of your high priced oil? We are lucky, you only found us recently, you have been pushing your product on other sites for years.
I doubt you will convince many people on this site when they find out the cost is $8 to $12 per quart depending on who you buy it from.

Let's See. Yes, I remember posting once or was that 2 or 3 time several years ago about Swepco! Thanks for the reminder! And I go by SRM on Amazon for the Gabriel ReadyMount strut assembly comment for my Volvo. Pretty consistent and nothing hidden if that is what you are trying to get at. As for Spamming I think after 900 posts...? I guess as soon as my Volvo is gone and I won't be in need of the excellent help I find here the Spamning should stop. I do see however a few suspicious and not so good mind readers on this forum (FACT!).

Blessings,
BKM
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Here is the Post in question and I think I was looking for answers on potentially buying another Benz and saw the Swepco post?
The first Spammer or Poster has about 2,593 Post to the Site and I Spammed in on his topic. Not much of a Salesman. If you find another let me know I think I have one other comment back then floating around.

(ONE POST in Benz Forum! Spammer?)
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/per ... etics.html

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[byeboy]

I, too, share in your skepticism about the high detergent in Mobil 1 causing his four head gasket failures. 'sounds a bit over-stated to me, but perhaps we'll learn how the detergent causes the failure..Does Mobil 1 run hotter? Is it so "slippery" that it migrates between the mating surfaces in spite of the gaskets? (This would show as 'oil tracking' when the head gasket was removed, I would think).

Interesting theory...more interesting is that he has had FOUR develop this problem.

First I've heard of it, but that doesn't mean he's wrong!

[jblackburn]

If Mobil 1 blew head gaskets, my car would have died by now. It's been running it from the previous owner since day 1, and it's now at 219,000. There were 2 conventional oil changes in there before I "knew better"

Unless I'm convinced something else is drastically better for a car (and worth the price!), it's all the Cruze and Camry will ever get too.

[MoVolvos]

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Since switching out of Synthetic I have not run into a Head Gasket or seen one except for my Plymouth Grand Voyager and that was a Coolant Issued Head Gasket rather than Oil Leak. I started using the Computer with Internet in 1997 so info on any subject was very limited at the time so I never gave more thought to the Synthetic and Head Gasket issue. Just Googled Synthetic and Head Gasket and the information is divided on the subject but my experiences with the oil leak on the edge of the Block is there.

One Mechanic noted seeing customers with leaks after change over, one person Posting in 2003 noted a change in Formulation in Mobil 1 to be more compatible with Head Gaskets and others say no issues.

This one in particular was my experience and re-torquing the Head Solved his problem and slowed mine enough to keep it on the road. Of the 4 cars 2 were worth fixing while the other 2 I took a chance and re-torqued not wanting to spend money on the older cars.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e- ... eak-2.html

Some thoughts on why Synthetics leak and the first is that Dino oil creates build up and Synthetic cleans it. Others include slicker, not compatible with various types of seals but everyone is going by experience. As for JBlackburn's I can see why it would not leak as I mentioned a Pepboy's Manager running it in his 5.0L Mustang for 150K from day 1. The one thing I can say and maybe JBlackburn can confirm is that the Oil Cap and Filler Hole on his Volvo should be very clean as to a Dino drinking variant?

Blessings,
BKM
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[erikv11]

Compared to Mobil1, Swepco is at best a boutique product. Over many years, you are the *only* person I have seen mention it. If you compared the number of cars running the two products, the Swepco fraction would be barely detectable. It may be great stuff, but I know of no one else who uses it. This isn't opinion, it's fact.

I am certain that oil formulations have changed over the years, all of the major brands change their additive packages every few years. And you know this too. I consider this common knowledge and I'm not going to look up or cite anything. This isn't BITOG. But for crying out loud, in my post I also deliberately posted what what you said yourself! So if you are worried that you are posting garbage information then just tell us, rather than asking me to back you up.

Knowing a knowledgeable Sales Rep and sharing my own experiences and knowledge of a product with everyone makes me a Sales Rep on the side? Do you know my Employer or do you work at a Bank and see my Electronic Transfers from Swepco? We sure have a lot of Volvo Sales Reps on this Site it looks like!

You have posted several times about supplying Swepco products to customers. So again and to set the record straight, can you please just be direct? Do you sell Swepco or not?