Transmission service required

[Ithought]

Thanks bebado,

sounds weird but if the items directly related to the transmission fail (such as a flush), I'll look into this rather bizarre solution.

Thanks
Gerry

[Polarice70]

Gerry, Your problem is probably solved by now. You can get a B4 servo at IPD (Oregon) for about $30 US. If this car has never had a flush, then it is way overdue. You will be amazed at the improvement. I don't know if it will solve all of the problems. My 2002 XC70 (80,000 mi.) has had a flush, a B4 servo upgrade and a transmission computer re-programming. Originally, the transmission was designed to shift into a quasi-neutral setting at a stop to improve fuel economy. As the trans gets older it is more pronounced. The computer re-programming helped but it was $165. The B4 servo upgrade was attempted by me but I had to have it towed to a shop. I couldn't get enough leverage laying under the car to compress the spring and deploy the retention clip. You can do the trans flush yourself with tubing, a funnel and a bucket;but it has a high potential for creating a mess and spilling fluid

[Ithought]

8/2/2013

Well after nearly 2 months of messing about with incorrect transmission fluid supplied, or in the case of the local Volvo dealership, not being able to supply a sufficient quantity despite being notified of impending order, I finally got my S60 T20 trannie flushed and refilled (Billings method). For my Irish readers may I recommend TOP parts Wexford (also nearly nationwide I think), for a suitable synthetic atf at a little over € 10 a litre. The old oil was black and ponged a bit.

Got the fault codes and engine lights cleared and it was perfect for about 20 miles but then reverted to losing the gear position indicator and going into limp mode. This only happens if I push the rpm beyond about 2500. If I manage to keep the revs down below said figure the trannie works very well with all functions like cruise control 'W' setting etc. operational. In 'D' rive at 2000 rpm it rolls along at about 50 mph (80kph) which suggests to that it is locked-up with no slipping. Ah well, the job came to about € 200 and was worth a shot.

The guy who cleared the codes didn't give my mechanic a readout of the Volvo codes, I assume he didn't have a suitable Volvo rig, however this is what showed up in his readout.
CODE001
TCM-0 Lock-up
02F Function, Slips
or not engaged.
CODE002
TCM-0 Gear-shift
039 position sensor
faulty signal.
This latter information is a bit cryptic due to my limited knowledge of on board computer systems. However given other factors at play such as the transmission's near faultless behavior at low throttle loads, I wonder if I should go to the trouble and expense of replacing the ' PNP switch on the trans', if I can get one that is. I know that it might be tilting at windmills, and could start ramping up the costs still further. Does anyone have any input or experience at a similar stage of grief with this Asin-Warner box. If I don't do anymore with the current box I have three alternatives. Full rebuild at about € 2000 (no way), second hand trannie at about € 800 (maybe, but a bit of a risk of a dodgy box) or scrap the car. The latter is looking most likely, event though I really like it ( beautiful beige leather seats, 17in alloys, great engine) and everything else is A1 mechanically.

Advice, cuddles, money all warmly accepted

Thanks

Gerry

[MattHenning]

Gerry,
I posted earlier today about a problem with my 2001 V70XC that would seem to be identical to yours. It was suggested to me that the problem may be in the three linear solenoids in the transmission. I will wait until the VIDA-VICE setup I ordered arrives so I can read the fault codes, but, from what I've read here and on other forums, I believe he may well be right. It will be a big project, but the solenoids can be ordered for less than $300US.

[MattHenning]

Precopster was the user who suggested the solenoid, and I see he replied to you earlier as well. Good luck!

[Ithought]

Precopster was the user who suggested the solenoid, and I see he replied to you earlier as well. Good luck!

Thanks Matt, Precopster and all you others good and helpful advice. Yes the solenoids would be a sensible next step, however (being partly disabled, banjaxed right arm) I would reguire a mechanic and the solenoids are quite expensive and hard to find on this side of the pond. Now I'm guessing abot € 500 for this next step and while that is acceptable it far from guarantees a resolution of my problem. I have already spent € 200 on the flush so the costs are starting to mount. Would it not be wiser to keep an eye out for a guaranteed used box, along with fitting that would add up to about € 800-> 900. In this latter case I would be keen to receive tips on what might be a suitable box (mine's a 2002 S60 T20), in other words up to what vehicle year is compatible and even perhaps a different model, S80 for example.
Oh I'm also a member of a very good british forum; http://www.volvoforums.org.uk
and one of the members sent me this rather worrying link ; http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=103776
Thanks guys

Gerry

[boosted5cyl]

Ugh I'd hate to be back home and trying to find someone who knows what they are doing with an auto (I'm a Dub).
Can you recap on what you have done so far? Traynors up north, or eBay might be a way to go to get a replacement used transmission.

[Ithought]

Ugh I'd hate to be back home and trying to find someone who knows what they are doing with an auto (I'm a Dub).
Can you recap on what you have done so far? Traynors up north, or eBay might be a way to go to get a replacement used transmission.

Hi Boost, regards a recap, so far I've only done a flush and fill. Yes local Volvo dealers are crap and indies are a little unwary of said Volvos. I have had the same problem for 20 years with Mercs as regards main dealers but there is and was a greater support mechanism for Mercs at the indie level. I've dealt with Traynors in the past and they are very good, but as the words of the song go ' a good heart (trannie) is hard to find'. And you just don't know till it's replaced (at great expense) wether it's a clunker or not.

[Ithought]

Since my flush/fill the box is still working well (until limp mode kicks in), but I still lose my gear indicator when I press on i.e. push past 2500 rpm. There is a difference however in that before I changed the oil when it went into limp mode there was an audible thunk and slight vibration as it happened. This has disappeared and now I have to look at my dials to see the dreaded dash to determine where my status in life currently resides.
Also my local repair shop guy (and he is a trustworthy man), drove the S60 quite hard for ten or fifteen miles after the flush/fault codes removal and reported no problems. Needless to say the 'Transmission needs service' and engine light are back as are the pre-existing problems barring as I said the seamless transition into trannie limp mode.
I just wonder will I risk a few more of my hard to find euros and replace the
' Gear-shift position sensor' thingymebob. Part number, price, experience anyone ?
Thanks
Gerry

[vtl]

I just wonder will I risk a few more of my hard to find euros and replace the
' Gear-shift position sensor' thingymebob.

Indeed, your simptoms doesn't sound like sticky solenoids. However, faulty position sensor gives meaningful DTC. Have you read DTCs with DiCE+VIDA?

Part number, price, experience anyone ?

~$580 at stealer two years ago. Part is ~$220, certainly can DIY. Russian DIYers tend to disassemble the sensor and clean/repair contacts: http://volvo850.ru/sdelay/AKPPselr.htm