Login Register

94 850 base NA with sluggish acceleration

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

Post Reply
ChillyOne
Posts: 2
Joined: 18 May 2013
Year and Model: 1994 850 base
Location: US

94 850 base NA with sluggish acceleration

Post by ChillyOne »

This is my first post so please forgive me if I don't provide enough info. My 94 850 is normally aspirated with 122k miles. Just finished timing belt/water pump/pcv system/rear main seal work. All parts purchased from FCP. Idling, car sounds great but sluggish when accelerating. A-6 diagnostic socket reveals code 4-3-3 for knock sensor. No other codes. Tried erasing but same code returns. I heard that 850's had problems with knock sensors but this is the first time I've run across this. I was wondering if this sounds like a problem consistent with a bad knock sensor or something else causing the code like bad spark plugs. Also, there are 2 sensors. Is there a way to test the sensors? When I change the sensors, I will have to take off the manifold. Should I change the manifold gasket after only 200 miles? I appreciate any feedback and advice.

Thanks,
Bob

jdt1249
Posts: 9
Joined: 21 July 2013
Year and Model: 850 Turbo, 1994
Location: Ramey, Pennsylvania

Post by jdt1249 »

did you unplug the knock sensor during the pcv repair?
94 850 Turbo Sedan ~223xxx D.D
97 850 NA Sedan ~265xxx Needs Transmission

jblackburn
MVS Moderator
Posts: 14043
Joined: 8 June 2008
Year and Model: 1998 S70 T5
Location: Alexandria, VA
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 19 times

Post by jblackburn »

Manifold gasket is fine to reuse.

The knock sensor will definitely cause slow acceleration as the car is backing off ignition timing/advance as far as it can in a "limp" mode.

You'll have to go through the whole process again to get down to the knock sensors, I don't think they can be reached from the bottom. It COULD be a bad or unplugged connection, but just to be on the safe side...get some knock sensors from a junkyard and just change them before you go back in. They're not a common failure item on the 850 to my knowledge...at least I haven't heard of it in the 7 years I've owned one.
'98 S70 T5
2016 Chevy Cruze Premier


A learning experience is one of those things that says, "You know that thing you just did? Don't do that."

mercuic: Long live the tractor motor!

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 35331
Joined: 17 February 2013
Year and Model: 99: V70s S70s,05 V70
Location: Port Jefferson Long Island NY
Has thanked: 1511 times
Been thanked: 3827 times

Post by abscate »

Bob..maybe use a torque wrench on the manifolds to make sure you get them both even and tight?

Sorry you have to repeat the manifold drop, but Justin has hit your problem on the head, I think.
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 XC90-in-Red
Link to Maintenance record thread

ChillyOne
Posts: 2
Joined: 18 May 2013
Year and Model: 1994 850 base
Location: US

Post by ChillyOne »

I want to thank all of you for the prompt advice. I'll torque the manifold bolts and reset the diagnostic. If the same code returns, then my fate is set. I'll check the knock sensor connection and replace the sensors if needed. I'm just dreading the fact that I have to remove and then reinstall the manifold each time to test it. Debating about just buying new sensors and replacing them just to save the hassle vs saving the money and spending the time.


Thanks,
Bob

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post