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The Last Control Arms You'll Ever Buy @ FCP EURO!

Help, Advice, Owners' Discussion and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's stylish, distinctive P2 platform cars sold as model years 2001-2007 (North American market year designations).

2001 - 2007 V70
2001 - 2004 V70 XC (Cross Country)
2004 - 2007 XC70 (Cross Country)
2001 - 2009 S60
2003 - 2007 S60 R
2004 - 2007 V70 R

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The Last Control Arms You'll Ever Buy @ FCP EURO!

Post by FCPEURO »

Hey Mathews,

Spring is upon us and there is no better time to refresh your ride before summer hits.

Beat the heat by replacing your worn out control arms before the Hot temperatures roll in!

Also, don't forget that we offer a LIFETIME REPLACEMENT WARRANTY on all of our parts INCLUDING WEAR AND TEAR ITEMS!.

Step 1: Purchase a Control Arm Kit
Step 2: Use it/Wear it out
Step 3: Get a free replacement!

It's that simple! And it stands for all of our parts including oil, oil filters, brake pads, rotors, and wiper blades!
Don't believe it? Try us....

Visit our site at FCPEURO.COM, enter your vehicles year, make, and model on the left, then search "Control Arm Kit".

You can also click HERE: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products?keywor ... 0arm%20kit

If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me at [email protected]

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Well, lifetime warranty is one thing, doing the job 2 or 3 times is another one. Get either Volvo or Lemforder for the control arms, forget about Meyle. I guess these sites still make money on parts that only last 1 year for some reason. I guess when a Meyle bushing cracks 1 year later, the customer won't come back to ask for the warranty and get the same low quality part.

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Post by FCPEURO »

Hello Oragex,

Thanks for your feedback, its very appreciated and welcomed.

In regards to the Warranty - If you wanted to exchange for a different brand, at the time of return we will issue a credit which can be used towards another brand alternative. We want to make this as simple as possible for everyone.

In regards to Meyle, I'd be very interested to hear your personal experience. Please email me directly at [email protected]. We take quality VERY seriously at FCP EURO with a motto "If we wouldn't put it on our car, we won't sell it to you" so If there's an issue with Meyle quality going on I'd very interested to hear about your experience.

- Jason

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Just the very first results of Google search. Jason, you guys know about this. All european car forums talk about these for years. No, it's not an installing problem: you never hear about a single problem with Lemforder control arms, installed correctly or not.

Let us just spread the correct information.

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39-m5 ... ilure.html
viewtopic.php?t=70893
http://volvoforums.com/forum/volvo-s80- ... lem-61533/

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oragex wrote: 14 Apr 2017, 16:23 Well, lifetime warranty is one thing, doing the job 2 or 3 times is another one. Get either Volvo or Lemforder for the control arms, forget about Meyle. I guess these sites still make money on parts that only last 1 year for some reason. I guess when a Meyle bushing cracks 1 year later, the customer won't come back to ask for the warranty and get the same low quality part.
+1 on your feedback. If you have to do it more than once, than you bought inferior parts and have already wasted time and money. Replacing control arms is not a 5 minute job that could warrant easy replacement of parts. OEM or Lemforder only!

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Post by abscate »

Get your supplier to back them with

" the last control arms you will ever install, or parts and labour are covered..."

And they will fly off the shelf...

( tough customers here on MVS...)

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93SCMax wrote: 15 Apr 2017, 05:52 93SCMax...

+1 on your feedback. If you have to do it more than once, than you bought inferior parts and have already wasted time and money. Replacing control arms is not a 5 minute job that could warrant easy replacement of parts. OEM or Lemforder only!
So that you have to do it at all, with the OEM parts that came with your car, mean that the OEM is inferior and your shouldn't have bought the car in the first place?? Is that what you are implying?

I get that you shouldn't have to do it monthly, but I have used Myele for years on my VWs and Audi's and they hold up great when used within the norms. When pushed hard, they suffer fates similar to others. I think a lot of it is that guys use the parts in applications where they need a heavier duty part i.e. from Lemforder, that is generally going to survive a lot longer. The last link above basically states that even Lemforder fails at a significant rate, so I am not sure why that one was used as an example when the poster was trying to say "use Lemforder over Myele".

I would like to see if FCP keeps data on the failure modes (i.e. Street, Spirited or Race Use) and see if that plays into the rate of perceived failures being put forth here. If it bears out that Myele fails more often under similar conditions, then given their mission statement I think you'd see them remove it from their shelves.

FCP doens't make a distinction on what quality parts you get the Lifetime Warranty on... they simply offer it on all parts. So if you are truly worried about it, buy yourself OEMs or Lemforders and rest assured that you'll never have to buy another. I replaced both my lower arms on my 98 V70 in less than 3 hours (first time ever working on a Volvo), so compared to my Audi's and VW's, I'll happily do the job on these "difficult" cars every couple of years with a smile on my face knowing I have fresh parts and I didn't pay for them!

FCP is the ONLY parts house I have ever found that offers this kind of warranty, so I give them kudos for that and suggest you just buy the parts you want rather than disparaging them for not offering it in the way you think it should be!

As always... it's your choice to buy what you perceive as value... I'll continue to pick and choose what I spend my $$ on. I buy OEM for some things that just shouldn't be skimped on and alternates for others that I don't mind doing evey couple years. I will continue to give props to a supplier that backs my choice no matter what it is though!!

Cheers,

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Good for you. I get what you say but I don't have that same level of frugality. If I had to replace control arms every couple of years, I wouldn't be happy because the replacement parts are free. My time is too valuable and the downtime waiting for FCP to receive the parts, agree they are worn, and then send new parts, just isn't worth it...hence my opinion to buy OEM or Lemforder. I respect your opinion and approach, but, as you said, it's your choice and I choose not.

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93SCMax wrote: 16 Apr 2017, 10:24 Good for you. I get what you say but I don't have that same level of frugality.
So then you are driving your car to the dealer every time it needs something to assure that only failure proof OEM parts are used? Just like those 01 AW55-50SN Transmissions, huh? Every manufacturer of auto parts has a failure rate. Reengineering and/or overbuilding parts slews the results.

Frugality takes on all levels of skill and funding!

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Botbasher wrote: 16 Apr 2017, 10:50
93SCMax wrote: 16 Apr 2017, 10:24 Good for you. I get what you say but I don't have that same level of frugality.
So then you are driving your car to the dealer every time it needs something to assure that only failure proof OEM parts are used? Just like those 01 AW55-50SN Transmissions, huh? Every manufacturer of auto parts has a failure rate. Reengineering and/or overbuilding parts slews the results.

Frugality takes on all levels of skill and funding!

Cheers!

KS
No, I seldom go to the dealer except for recalls and the occasional OEM part that I don't want to wait to be shipped to me. I do most of the repair work myself, hence the expectation that I don't do it twice because of inferior parts. Luckily I don't have any issues with my transmission since I have a 5 speed. Volvo did blow it on the auto trans in 2001.
Look, I've spent 28 years in the Automotive industry as an Quality Engineer/Product Engineer/Engineering Manager, most years in a world class manufacturing plant. I expect replacement parts to have the same level of quality and durability as OEM parts. If they are cheaper, but don't stand up, I never go back. This is why my default purchase is almost always OEM. I've learned the hard way, and therefore I have the opinion I shared.
Sure everyone wants to save money, but there is a "cost" to you when you use your labor to replace parts that prematurely wear out. It's just not worth it to me to save on the front end, and pay on the back end. I enjoy working on my cars, but I don't like doing things over, even a few years later, due to lower quality replacement parts. That's me, but to each his own. You get to choose what's most important to you.

Cheers to you too...enjoy your Easter.

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