End of my wits... Sputter and stall

GumboJones · Post by **GumboJones** » 07 Feb 2018, 15:25

So I'm at my wits end. I'm hoping one of you guys can steer me in the right direction.

History
2000 Volvo V70 glt
It died on the freeway. Lost power with crazy rpms and stalling on restart. This was the final blow, it had been stalling more and more up to this point.

I replaced the MAF, O2 sensor then the throttle position sensor.

It still didn't work so we parked it on the property for about a year

I recharged the battery and it was acting the same. I suspected I messed up the solder joints in the sensor. I removed the sensor and the joints were in fact bad. I resoldered them properly and closed it back up and filled it up with good gas and a can of seafoam. It ran for an hour (maybe 40 miles) with 10 restarts fine except for the first couple. Which I assumed was the bad gas.

My wife takes it to get smoged and tagged and it dies on her on the way back. She restarts it and makes it about 100 yards. This repeats a few times before she gives up and I come and get her.

That's where I am now. The only thing I can think of is the throttle body is toast, the magnet is cracked or... Fuel pump?

Either way any advice would be great

Post by **RickHaleParker** » 07 Feb 2018, 17:46

Like many things, communication is the key.
Get Vida-DiCE or at least a generic code reader so you can communicate with the car.

Post by **abscate** » 07 Feb 2018, 18:52

Success rate on home fixed ETB is about 20%

Get a new one or go Xemodex

Post by **theWIFES_S70** » 07 Feb 2018, 19:35

abscate wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 18:52 Success rate on home fixed ETB is about 20%

Get a new one or go Xemodex

Does the eBay ETM contactless repair kit really have a 1/5 success rate? I thought it was higher... Good to know!

GumboJones · Post by **GumboJones** » 07 Feb 2018, 20:31

The car isn't throwing any faults that my cheap generic reader is picking up. At this point I have a car at best with $1600 and we can probably get $1K realistically. We are just getting tired if fiddling with it. Everyone made this ETM repair seem like a sure fire thing.

Post by **mrbrian200** » 07 Feb 2018, 23:19

PDF instructions I saw for installing that contactless ETM sensor is terrible. There's a youtube video or two that are even worse. I'm not surprised most people have trouble.

Post by **theWIFES_S70** » 07 Feb 2018, 23:23

GumboJones wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 20:31 The car isn't throwing any faults that my cheap generic reader is picking up. At this point I have a car at best with $1600 and we can probably get $1K realistically. We are just getting tired if fiddling with it. Everyone made this ETM repair seem like a sure fire thing.

Sorry to hear it man. After 99, you really need to get a Vida-Dice set up to read the "real" codes. (For our 98, the $10 Autel in the armrest has been all we need!) The module off ebay is about $75 and you can find software for free or pay for a easily set up version of the software--altogether about $100. And, of course, it needs to run off a laptop... Kind of involved if you ask me... But that's the only way you'll really know what's going on with it.

$489 is quite a doozy...
https://xemodex.com/us/product/electron ... 821-10-20/

Good luck figuring out a path forward.

Post by **abscate** » 08 Feb 2018, 03:20

theWIFES_S70 wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 19:35
abscate wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 18:52 Success rate on home fixed ETB is about 20%

Get a new one or go Xemodex
Does the eBay ETM contactless repair kit really have a 1/5 success rate? I thought it was higher... Good to know!

I pulled 22 from a search and found 4 reported a clean fix, if you do board circuit work at the component level it's probably a clean fix but there aren't many of us left. I'm not even good at it unless it's diodes in a blender or something Neanderthal like that

GumboJones · Post by **GumboJones** » 08 Feb 2018, 06:56

California has a vehicle retirement program. We can get $1k for it... So the probably what we are going to do. At this point we don't want to keep dining money into it. I'll have to see it go, that's for sure.

Post by **abscate** » 08 Feb 2018, 07:57

You can get a brand new ETM from FCP for $500 plus download for $150. I assume they lifetime warranty it too, per the website

The bastards (99-00) are sweet drivers with a couple of bugs, the ETM being one of them.