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Serious front of engine oil leak '04 XC70

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Re: Serious front of engine oil leak '04 XC70

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prwood wrote: 19 Feb 2018, 08:23 Just for reference, when this happened to me, these were the steps I followed:

0. Determined whether I needed to remove the bolt. Answer was yes, because the camshaft position sensor aperture would not screw back into place with the broken off bolt.
1. Drilled pilot hole in bolt using right-angle drill adapter. Broke three drill bits in the process.
2. Drove screw extractor into bolt. It seemed to be getting a good bite on the bolt, but then it stopped rotating, and then the screw extractor itself snapped off.
3. Removed camshaft from engine by removing cam cover. Attempted to do basically anything to get the bolt out on the workbench. No such luck.
4. Since the camshaft was already out at this point, went to the junkyard and pulled a replacement camshaft from another B5244T3 engine. Price was $40.
5. Cleaned camshaft cover/cylinder head, reinstalled camshafts, re-sealed cam cover, reassembled everything.

Hopefully you will have better luck and can remove the screw, but if not... Removing and reinstalling the cam cover to get at the camshafts is not hard, but is incredibly tedious. I've actually done it three times now:

First - to fix an oil leak in the spark plug tube seals which are between the halves of the cylinder head
Second - to remove the camshaft with the broken bolt, after I had reinstalled it in order to re-set the timing after the first attempt
Third - to re-seal the camshaft cover after it developed another oil leak after being improperly sealed the second time around (oil contamination in sealant).

The key (and the reason it's so tedious) is to get both surfaces of the cylinder head and camshaft cover completely clean, smooth, and free of any oil or contamination before applying the chemical gasket to re-seal. You also have to make sure all the screw holes on the cylinder head are cleaned of oil, because it can hide in there and spurt out when screwing the cam cover back on.

Regarding the source of these woes, the camshaft holding tool, mine was a CTA-branded tool that I purchased from FCP Euro:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/volvo- ... s-cta-2864

In my case one of the shorter bolts broke. Like you, I had also read the note in the VVT reset guide PDF that said you needed to get the bolts "quite tight", and this was a mistake. I had actually used the tool a couple of times before, but this was the first time I had read this guide and I should have trusted my gut and not made it so tight.

This latest time around, I ended up using the two longer bolts with the spacers, and just tightened them finger tight until there was no more play in the tool, then gave a slight (1/8) turn with a socket. You really don't want to take it any further past the point where the screw flange makes contact with the tool. I actually tried to source some higher quality replacement bolts locally, and couldn't find any. I even went to a specialty metric tool and screw shop that reportedly could get "any" metric screw one would need, and they couldn't locate any that were the right size.
Looking at those bolts on the fcp website, are they stainless? Bad news.

I got my tool from other supplier and the bolts are black. Probably just black oxide.

so maybe the problem is cold welding, it can happen easily with stainless. It was something i ran into on my boat.
Without anti seize stainless threads will gall and cold weld. Here's a demo.

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BlackBart wrote: 19 Feb 2018, 16:22
abscate wrote: 19 Feb 2018, 08:55 When I did my 1999 CVVT hub last fall

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=83008&p=452202#p452202

jdawg and kahl saved my a$$ by warning me about these bolts. The collective is strong.
"... I broke one of the included chinesium bolts off..."

Mine says EWK...
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Here's a fairly accurate view of the situation. This is a section thru the camshaft CL. I love the brass bushing or sleeve idea, but it's not going to help here. In my current view, the only resistance to backing this out is how jammed the bolt threads are at the tapering end of the threaded bore.

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Ohh...a quick search for EWK tools produces this corporate history........

"All EWKTOOL's Tools Are Manufactured By Advanced Processes, And Strict Quality Control Before To You."

"Because We Insist The Quality, So We Commitment The Best For You."
A machine shop can remove it when all else fails. But you'll need to pull the cam.
So...
The thread either galled up on you or bottomed out. I despise ez outs.

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Post by BlackBart »

Right - try the easiest, cheapest thing first (like clean your spark plugs before buying $100 wires).

I won't use an easy-out. They always snap off and then you're really stuck. I'm going to Fastenal for a left hand drill bit and work out a way to line it up. I can see the sheared face of the bolt down in there, but not with my hands or a tool in the way.

If it were on a bench or sticking up where you can reach it, these are pretty neat - they dig in tighter as you turn CCW.....
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Just an FYI for future fixers -
If you break one of these bolts, they are the holy grail to find. Fastenal, Grainger, all the normal bolt suppliers....it's an oddball size and too long and skinny (which is why it sheared).

It's an M7x80, pitch is the standard 1.0.

Found some in Germany....$45 to ship. Another German company will sell me 200 only. Found a titanium (?) in England for $12 each - they don't ship to the US. Just now I found a package of 100 at Grainger for $26. I suppose I could locate a hex bolt blank and a 7mm die and cut my own threads...for under $26?

https://www.grainger.com/product/FABORY ... rew-38CJ51

https://www.tola-tools.de/M7x80-bolts-- ... shaft.html

http://www.scooter-center.com/en/produc ... ngth?meta=

https://www.fabory.com/en/fasteners/bol ... 1200070080

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Titanium-Head- ... +x+80+bolt
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Post by prwood »

I'm not sure why I hadn't seen this before, but it actually looks like Home Depot sells these bolts (and my local store seems to have them in stock for pickup):

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-M7 ... /205037780

That's basically it, right? No idea about the quality, but it does appear to be the right size...
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Oh, no way! Home Depot?! I will call them tomorrow, thanks!
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My Home Depot had seven in the drawer. I bought three to leave an even number for someone. Those bolts will sit in that drawer for years.

Thanks prwood! Who'd have thunk, Home Depot? Several washers and no more than 15 ft-lbs will be put on these.
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If those bolts are 8.8s I'll eat my bald spot
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Post by BlackBart »

It finally warmed up here and I got some time to work on this. Didn't go as planned.

I seem to be in the same situation prwood found himself.

Bought a nice, sharp, expensive, left-hand Fastenal bit.
Rented a nice short Makita 90º drill.
There is really no room to get a punch and a hammer in there, and then it would be blind anyway. I could only see down into the camshaft with a mirror and a bright light.
There seemed to be a divot close to the center of the broken bolt so I drilled very slowly, only a few turns at a time.
Mirror / light / measure / check / drill a bit.
When it got off-center, I attempted to steer the bit towards the center some - you know how well that works.
The end result was it cut really easily through the soft metal, but it wouldn't stay centered. I turned it slowly starting and stopping to get it to catch and back out - nothing.
It gave way so I assume it went all the way through the 20mm of bolt end...

BUT.. it's not centered and I assume I chewed the threads in the hole. Swore some, put the tools away, went in.

Talked with a good NAPA guy a while, and looked at the dreaded EZ Outs. The size is very small and fragile looking, and we agreed if the hole isn't centered, you're not turning the bolt out, you're fighting the threaded wall and it's going to snap.

So it looks like the cam cover is coming off. Have read and looked at many guides - it seems fairly straightforward if tedious. Lock the cams and hang them tight to the cover. CAREFULLY pop the cover. Clean clean clean. Maybe hot tank it. Clean clean clean. Roll on the anaerobic stickum. Oil the lifter bores. Pull the cover and cams down against the springs carefully and slowly. Install seals.

The part I'm concerned about is learning how to re-attach and set up the VVT hub on the new used exhaust cam. Is that covered in F250's guide as well?

So....
1. Where to find an exhaust cam that isn't rusted, sludged, galled, scored, bent, or sold on eBay with the wrong part#? I don't have a yard with Volvos here. Car-part.com and those types only list a whole cylinder head. This guy only sells Volvo parts: http://www.voluparts.com/parts.html
A new dealer cam is $485(?!)..way more than a cylinder head used. A whole used engine is $800...

2. Is this the only engine that uses that specific cam? Can I cross reference a V70 or other part #?

3. Re-attaching the VVT hub end and timing this whole thing as it goes back together. My paint marks are worthless once the cam is loose, correct?

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