Made in China?

[mrbrian200]

We'll get a good look at the SC made cars soon enough. I noticed the curb weight for the recently unveiled SPA S60s is nearly the same as the P2s, which points to them being solidly built cars. Contrast that with my friend's Civic 4 door sedan, being roughly the same size as my S60 is something like 1500 lbs lighter and not remotely comparable to the S60 in this regard. I've seen accident pictures of these Hondas in scenarios involving collisions with larger trucks/semis where the Hondas are busted up into unrecognizable bits - where in similar situations the P2 Volvos are known to hold together and are still at least 'recognizable' usually with at least half the passenger compartment still intact/survivable.

[June]

We'll get a good look at the SC made cars soon enough. I noticed the curb weight for the recently unveiled SPA S60s is nearly the same as the P2s, which points to them being solidly built cars. Contrast that with my friend's Civic 4 door sedan, being roughly the same size as my S60 is something like 1500 lbs lighter and not remotely comparable to the S60 in this regard. I've seen accident pictures of these Hondas in scenarios involving collisions with larger trucks/semis where the Hondas are busted up into unrecognizable bits - where in similar situations the P2 Volvos are known to hold together and are still at least 'recognizable' usually with at least half the passenger compartment still intact/survivable.

My dealer has a 2019 R designation S60 on the lot now. The quality looks no different from any of the other vehicles Volvo offers. This particular car is $52K with every available option including these silly moose stickers which mean something, I'm not sure just what. The rear quarters remind me of a Lexus, while the front looks like a S90. Just like a Chinese built Volvo, same goes for South Carolina and anywhere outside of Sweden, I'll pass. June

[jimmy57]

twin exhausts are needed because they are everywhere and ones without would not be competitive.
You can hardly avoid China. If you buy almost any car, i'm talking legacy domestics too, you are getting some Chinese parts. It is hard to find brake rotors on newly manufactured cars that aren't Chinese or offshore sourced.
Then there are Apple products that few can resist. My Lenovo convertible notebook I'm typing on is Chinese.

BUT, Volvo is still very much a Swedish car company. For how long who knows. The Euro car companies not owned by Chinese are making lots of cars there and lots of components. The others are not exporting to here, yet. Buick has several models coming this way but the Euros don't that I am aware of. I do think some BMW 4 cylinders are sourced there, at least replacements.

[bmdubya1198]

I can't help but notice the exhaust posts have done from "tinny" exhaust, to "tiny" exhaust, to "twin" exhaust.

This is similar to a tool conversation... Chinese-made tools vs. Taiwanese-made tools vs. USA-made tools (among other countries that make tools like Germany, Romania, etc.). You get good ones and bad ones from every country. The country the brand is based in tends to be the best (USA-made Craftsman vs. Chinese Craftsman) but some tools made in Taiwan tend to be pretty good quality. Hell, some Chinese tools I've bought are pretty good, they are definitely improving.
Like Jimmy said, Apple has always made products in China. iPhones have been made in China since they were introduced, and they're very well made (although with how some people take care of them you'd never believe it).

All we can do is hope the manufacturing plants in China can keep true to the Volvo name as far as quality!

As for the build quality of a Volvo vs. a Civic, I've seen some pretty effed up Civics in junkyards. One time at an LKQ I saw a 2006ish coupe that was crushed all the way to the back seat! The engine had pushed into the dash! There was blood on the interior, biohazard stickers and everything. No way someone lived through that. I just don't get how they could put that on a pick a part lot.