Can a 5 bolt p80 REAR hub fit on the 93 850 4 bolt axle

Post by **JimBee** » 25 Oct 2019, 08:57

My 93 854 is ready for winter driving except that one of the aluminum wheels isn't holding air for very long. It has been ground and resealed several times and air loss is fairly rapid now.

I just happen to have a spare five bolt 850 wheel that's the same style as my 93 wheels and has a mounted tire that's fully inflated after a year in storage and good enough for winter use. So if I can swap on a 5 bolt rear hub a quick trip to Upull and I'm good to go.

Does anyone know if the swap will work?

Post by **RickHaleParker** » 25 Oct 2019, 18:59

The five bolt hub is Volvo Part number 271585. Fitment for 271585 is 1993-1997 850. The 1993 850 GLT has the five bolt hubs.
I cannot say 100% sure the five bolt hub will fit all '93 850s but it looks like a good bet.

Post by **bmdubya1198** » 25 Oct 2019, 19:59

I don't know if anyone has done this. It's worth a shot, I don't think there are any suspension differences on the '93 aside from the 4 bolt hubs. Worst case, return it or sell it and find another wheel/tire

Also, all US market 1993 models were GLTs, so they are 4 bolt. Unless of course there were some 5 bolt late models, but every '93 I've seen has been a GLT and 4 bolt.

Post by **JimBee** » 25 Oct 2019, 20:16

I'm pretty sure all the 93's are 4 bolt. The platform does seem the same. I also have 2 96 850 wagons and have used brake parts between them and the 93 interchangeably (many harvested from the junk yard), so I'm thinking the axles are probably the same. I'm kind of kicking myself for not snagging a couple of wheels off a 93 that was at the JY a couple of years ago. They were the same style. Haven't seen another one since, though. I picked up the 5 bolt wheel as a backup for one of the 96's if I need it, haven't had a need yet, though the aluminum rims on both of those do lose a little air over the months, some more than others.

Post by **Clemens** » 25 Oct 2019, 20:48

Other idea: I think there used to be tubes that you could run in tires to fix the initial problem of your leaking rim.

Post by **RickHaleParker** » 25 Oct 2019, 22:00

Got the part numbers switched, 271585 is the four bolt, 271795 is the five bolt.

It looks like the question is: Are the spindles the same for both part numbers.

Volvo sold the spindles and the hubs as a set. You might try changing out the hubs. If that does not work out, go back and get the five bolt spindle. Else you could try swapping between one of your '96s and the '93.

Fitment for 271585 (Four bolt).
1993 Volvo 850 GLT 2.4L L5 - Gas

Fitment for 271795 (Five bolt).

1997 Volvo 850 Base, GLT, R, T-5 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1996 Volvo 850 Base, GLT, R, Turbo 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1995 Volvo 850 Base, GLT, T-5R, Turbo 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1994 Volvo 850 Base, GLT, Turbo 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1993 Volvo 850 GLT 2.4L L5 - Gas

2004 Volvo C70 Base 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
2003 Volvo C70 Base 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
2002 Volvo C70 Base 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
2001 Volvo C70 Base 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
2000 Volvo C70 Base 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1999 Volvo C70 Base 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1998 Volvo C70 Base 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas

2000 Volvo S70 AWD, Base, GLT, GLT SE, T5 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1999 Volvo S70 AWD, Base, GLT, T5 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1998 Volvo S70 Base, GLT, T5 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas

2000 Volvo V70 Base, GLT, GLT SE, R AWD, T5 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1999 Volvo V70 AWD, Base, GLT, R AWD, T5 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas
1998 Volvo V70 AWD, Base, GLT, T5 2.3L L5 - Gas, 2.4L L5 - Gas

Richard_TD · Post by **Richard_TD** » 25 Oct 2019, 23:58

I've put a four bolt front hub on my '96 850 when an eBay seller sent the wrong part. Everything fitted perfectly, I didn't even notice it was the wrong part until I tried to put the wheel back on.

Post by **abscate** » 26 Oct 2019, 04:21

Wait, how do you get the brake over the hub? Or does the rear disc clear the hub?

Post by **bmdubya1198** » 26 Oct 2019, 08:37

It seems you're good to go then... grab a hub and give it a go!

abscate wrote: ↑26 Oct 2019, 04:21 Wait, how do you get the brake over the hub? Or does the rear disc clear the hub?

The rotor should go back on, the CB is the same. It'll probably even allow the guide pin to be installed, but the holes won't line up. The wheel will go on too for that matter... only problem will be you can't bolt it on!

Post by **JimBee** » 26 Oct 2019, 09:07

Helpful points about fitment, giving me food for thought. Abscate's keen observation, shared by bmdubya that the disc will need 5 holes to bolt up the strange wheel. I hadn't thought about that but I do have a few 5 hole rear discs in inventory, even a new one if I decided to splurge and use it, instead of a decent one pulled from a JY donor.

Nod to Clemens, too, for a reminder that there's some sort of sealant you can squirt in through the valve stem to seal from the inside. Worth looking into. And RickHaleParker's discovery that Volvo sells the spindles and hubs as a set is helpful to keep in mind. I've used a hub from a 98 on my 96, was a direct fit, though the 98 hub flange was maybe a 1/4" thicker.

And Richard's pics reminded me of the new 4 bolt front hub I packed in my tool and spare parts kit for a cross country trip a while ago in my 96 855. Fortunately, didn't need it, but it was only when I got back and realized that it was 4 bolt and would have been useless!