Documenting a problem
Prewarning: we had a heavy snow here and with lots of slush I noticed that if STC operated for more than a few seconds, I would get an ABS light. I also noticed if Imrookie-clutched it and let the revs go below 500 rpm, I would get the same fault. After a few seconds of running the fau;ts would clear.
I drove the car to Boston with no faults two days later
On the way home, if I flashed high beams to guide a truck back in, I got the ABS fault, then just headlights did the same thing. Turning lights off , then faults cleared again in a few seconds
I made it home just before dusk wth lights off.
I measured 12.5 v at battery at 0 Celsius
I put the battery on charger overnight, and now have driven it for a week with no faults
Battery history is near end of life . 6 years and 105k miles in service
Alternator is relatively new, 2 years 40k miles
Video of failure recorded below.
One minute video of fault at at speed
1999 V70T5M56 Elizabeth Voltage Bus problem [Old battery on last legs] Topic is solved
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1999 V70T5M56 Elizabeth Voltage Bus problem [Old battery on last legs]
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You have received full value from that battery. Time to replace. Thanks for good documentation of poor voltage faults.
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The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
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Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
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Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
And others.
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I’m going to try top it off each weekend and nurse it through winter. It will be fine in summer.
A real grownup will just replace it now , of course
A real grownup will just replace it now , of course
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A real grownup would just replace it of course. Whenever I take a dollar out of my pocket, George Washington blinks for all the light, though.
It’s a good learning lesson on how a battery can be good enough to start a car at 20F, but not be good enough to run an electronic era car reliably. She is starting and running fine three weeks later, after a solid charge.
It’s a good learning lesson on how a battery can be good enough to start a car at 20F, but not be good enough to run an electronic era car reliably. She is starting and running fine three weeks later, after a solid charge.
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We should make it rule number 1 of late model Volvo ownership: The battery voltage must be sufficient to keep electronics happy. It is not 1960 when battery test is cold starting capability.
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The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
And others.
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
And others.
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The same battery is cranking and running fine in 20 F weather, so I’m trying to get one last winter out of it. It will get a good charge on weekends to keep it happy, then get relegated to boat duty where it will just light some LEDs
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You make a good point here. There are batteries and BATTERIES. We used to use batteries until they would not crank the car any longer. (Side note: I once had a battery explode with a hole in the case. It measured about 10 volts, but would start and run 1964 Ford truck.)
Batteries now are good for boat lights and old cars without extensive computer systems.
BATTERIES are needed for cars with major computer systems that require fully charged voltage just to keep the vehicle running well. When BATTERIES get old they degrade to batteries.
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Batteries now are good for boat lights and old cars without extensive computer systems.
BATTERIES are needed for cars with major computer systems that require fully charged voltage just to keep the vehicle running well. When BATTERIES get old they degrade to batteries.
volvolugnut
The Fleet:
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
And others.
Volvo: 2001 V70 T5, 1986 244DL, 1983 245DL, 1975 245DL, 1959 PV544, multiple Volvo parts cars.
Mercedes: 2001 E320, 1973 280, 1974 280C, 1989 300E, 1988 300TE, 1979 300TD, parts cars.
2009 Smart Passion
Ford: 1977 F350, 1964 F150 (2), 1938 Tudor Sedan
Farmall tractors: 1956 400 Diesel, 1946 A
And others.
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It is not 1960 when battery test is cold starting capability.
This has been registered as official MVS lore (tm)
Thanks, volvolugnut
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Still running that old battery. With Corona shut down, I’m putting all the cars on charger every 2-3 weeks
It’s showing 12.2 Volts at 75F, so a bit less than 50% capacity by voltage, I’m guessing Current capacity is even less
It’s showing 12.2 Volts at 75F, so a bit less than 50% capacity by voltage, I’m guessing Current capacity is even less
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