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I'm taking my 2001 S60 in for an alignment tomorrow, and would like to know what the factory specs are in case they don't have them. Can someone list the toe, front and rear, and camber angles, please? I haven't been able to find the camber angles anywhere, but the toe settings are in the owner's manual. (I have the original owner's manual, but I thought having all of the specs listed here may help others as well.)

If anyone has had an alignment done with specs other than the factory settings, that's suitable for a daily driver, that works better (better handling, braking, and longer tire life) that would be appreciated as well.
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gnalan wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 19:47 I'm taking my 2001 S60 in for an alignment tomorrow, and would like to know what the factory specs are in case they don't have them. Can someone list the toe, front and rear, and camber angles, please? I haven't been able to find the camber angles anywhere, but the toe settings are in the owner's manual. (I have the original owner's manual, but I thought having all of the specs listed here may help others as well.)

If anyone has had an alignment done with specs other than the factory settings, that's suitable for a daily driver, that works better (better handling, braking, and longer tire life) that would be appreciated as well.
The specs are in the alignment machine. It is not inputted by the tech. Many techs just look at the green, "within tolerance" and let it go. The better ones will do a nicer job centering the steering wheel by the reading the other specs and bring the green within range closer to ideal.

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So if I asked for a different setting that's not the factory spec they wouldn't set it where I want it?
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gnalan wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 21:54 So if I asked for a different setting that's not the factory spec they wouldn't set it where I want it?
The range in the green is quite wide for my liking and they could be in the opposite end from side to side. Even Volvo specs will provide a range what is acceptable. What you are looking for is even numbers on both sides with the steering wheel centered.

Ask they will even the numbers for you. Unless there is rear toe adjustment the Volvo will only have a front toe adjustment. There is a very slight room for a camber adjustment but no one will take the time to do that for you unless you purchase an after market camber adjustment bolt. Not much for the tech to do. Best to have it a slight positive total toe in the front and steering wheel centered.

I've been doing alignments my own alignments for many years and have always set the front 1/16" to 1/8" total toe on all my cars. Never had a tire wear unevenly. Keep the inflation way up to get better mileage and more responsive steering.

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They won't set the camber? It's 2 bolts and 2 nuts per side. It shouldn't be that hard to loosen them up, adjust the camber, and tighten them back up. I'll loosen and tighten them if they don't want to take the time to do it. If all they're going to do is adjust the toe on the front, it's not worth me wasting my money on it. An alignment should involve all 4 wheels, and everything should be adjusted within spec, and be equal on each side.
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gnalan wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 23:00 They won't set the camber? It's 2 bolts and 2 nuts per side. It shouldn't be that hard to loosen them up, adjust the camber, and tighten them back up. I'll loosen and tighten them if they don't want to take the time to do it. If all they're going to do is adjust the toe on the front, it's not worth me wasting my money on it. An alignment should involve all 4 wheels, and everything should be adjusted within spec, and be equal on each side.
Most shops today charge for a 4 wheel alignment knowing full well most cars only have a front toe adjustment. It's good to have all the specs however to check for bent or out of tolerance parts. This is only true if the tech knows suspension dynamics. The two bolts have a slight play and is not an adjustable camber bolt so they will not loosen it. They will consider that play negligible and in most cases that's true.

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The other reason they won’t set the camber. Volvo calls for new strut bolts nuts on strut installation


Use new screws and nuts. Tighten to 65 Nm (47.9 ft. lbs.).
Angle tighten 90°.

I’m going to swag a 90 degree tightened m 65 Nm preloaded M12 at about 400 Nm. That’s about half the yield point on a grade 8
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I thought they torqued to 105Nm plus 90 degrees?
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http://www.volvoxc.com/wp-content/uploa ... ontEnd.pdf

This is what I used for reference when I did my LCAs.
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I probably quoted the P80 spec by mistake.

That P2 torque is even tighter, though
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