The Moose Test?

Post by **MoVolvos** » 06 Mar 2021, 12:06

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The Moose Test

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Post by **BlackBart** » 08 Mar 2021, 16:33

That's very eye-opening isn't it! (and related to the other conversation on SUVs recently).

Most of those are awful. Some of those are atrocious - pushing, skipping, skidding, hopping, heaving...and on two wheels?! Unforgivable.

The Volvo does ok, the Soob Crosstrek does ok (smaller & lighter, but then look at how badly the very small Fiat does). The only one that performs very well in the entire video is the small BMW. Suspension is completely controlled - tight, smooth movement, no uncontrolled dynamics, all four tire patches stay on the ground and square with the pavement.

Post by **MoVolvos** » 08 Mar 2021, 19:11

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There is another video of a Toyota that failed and like this one Toyota followed up with tech fixes. Suspension alone no longer provide good or safe driving dynamics and with electronics it will idiot proof terrible drivers.

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Post by **MoVolvos** » 08 Mar 2021, 19:15

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Moose After Moose Test

https://www.youtube.com/user/km77video/videos

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Post by **matthew1** » 08 Mar 2021, 19:43

"You get what you pay for" comes to mind watching that.

The BMW does very well. The big Audi does well, considering its mass.

That Chinese white SUV... the camera operator and driver are both fortunate they weren't hurt. Holy smokes.

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The Moose Test

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Post by **matthew1** » 08 Mar 2021, 19:45

Also notice some models trigger hazard lights, based on G forces or driver input or both.

Post by **BlackBart** » 09 Mar 2021, 09:52

Yep.

And every one of those mashed cones is a pedestrian, bike, pole, or another car.

Post by **BlackBart** » 09 Mar 2021, 09:58

matthew1 wrote: ↑08 Mar 2021, 19:43 "You get what you pay for" comes to mind watching that.

I saw a Taycan in person the other day and talked with the guy. They are BIG, and they weigh 6000 lbs!

Post by **matthew1** » 09 Mar 2021, 10:14

Batteries ain't light. It's pretty cool how they design the cars with low center of gravity as a very high importance item. They're actually pretty nimble.

It's also fascinating to me how efficient electric energy is at moving these things. 6k lbs., yet the range isn't bad, and the acceleration is silly good.

If you'd told me 20 years ago EVs were going to come out of the gate with that kind of mass disadvantage vs. ICE, I'd have been skeptical of the adoption rate. Yet here we are.