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Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
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Re: What did you do to your Volvo today?

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Nice !
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I think you need to get those connectors a little hotter to allow that solder to flow.
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ZionXIX wrote: 21 Aug 2021, 16:53 some nifty heat shrink connectors with solder built in.
They are called solder-seal connectors. A step up from crimp butt connectors.
It helps if you dip the wires in Liquid Rosin and heat the solder enough that it flows into the wires.


Here another way that works even better and cost less. Better joint and not a bulky.

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I maxed out my heat gun for several minutes and that's all it would flow. After they cooled I couldn't pull them apart. My light is working great so I'm gonna call this one done. Maybe higher quality connectors would flow better. These were the Amazon special.
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ZionXIX wrote: 21 Aug 2021, 21:33 I maxed out my heat gun for several minutes and that's all it would flow. After they cooled I couldn't pull them apart. My light is working great so I'm gonna call this one done. Maybe higher quality connectors would flow better. These were the Amazon special.
The problem is: The wire does not get hot enough to flow the solder. Some Liquid Rosin will clean it and help flow the heat.

When soldering you are suppose to heat the material them melt the solder with the heat of the material. That is why he is wrapping the solder around the ends and heating from the center in the video. The little bridge of solder helps to get the heat flowing. The Liquid Rosin cleans and also helps heat flow.

Watch the video, when the solder melts it wicks along the hot and clean wire. Your solder-seal did not do that because the wire is neither hot or clean.

Solder-seal is not a good solder joint but, it is a step up from crimp butt connectors.

Note on using Liquid Rosin: Go easy on it!
In the video he did even use a drop. He drew the Liquid Rosin off the side of the tip. If you use too much, the Liquid Rosin it will catch fire, cook the copper or leave a residue that will do more hard then good. Liquid Rosin is primary for cleaning the surface of the material. You need just enough to lightly coat the material.
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abscate wrote: 14 Aug 2021, 09:45 Out with the old and in with the blue…..it’s Tinky winky!
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[quote=RickHaleParker post_id=581045 time=1629604575 user_id=8402

The problem is: The wire does not get hot enough to flow the solder. Some Liquid Rosin will clean it and help flow the heat.

When soldering you are suppose to heat the material them melt the solder with the heat of the material. That is why he is wrapping the solder around the ends and heating from the center in the video. The little bridge of solder helps to get the heat flowing. The Liquid Rosin cleans and also helps heat flow.

Watch the video, when the solder melts it wicks along the hot and clean wire. Your solder-seal did not do that because the wire is neither hot or clean.

Solder-seal is not a good solder joint but, it is a step up from crimp butt connectors.

Note on using Liquid Rosin: Go easy on it!
In the video he did even use a drop. He drew the Liquid Rosin off the side of the tip. If you use too much, the Liquid Rosin it will catch fire, cook the copper or leave a residue that will do more hard then good. Liquid Rosin is primary for cleaning the surface of the material. You need just enough to lightly coat the material.
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It's same principle as sweat soldering copper plumbing pipes. You heat the copper fitting and pipe, then touch the solder to that hot copper, and the solder will wick into the joint and set up.

He didn't provide a link for the liquid rosin - I wonder if standard paste solder flux would work.
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abscate wrote: 22 Aug 2021, 06:32
abscate wrote: 14 Aug 2021, 09:45 Out with the old and in with the blue…..it’s Tinky winky!
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Nothing rides like a wooden boat !
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