Where is Webb?

[abscate]

I have to give both Elon and Jeff credit for the vision to change stuff or do things differently. To tackle retail was a gutsy , long term move. People now look back and say” of course people will buy stuff in the internet “ This was not so she. He started.

To go into the auto business is a bigger achievement than Space. Space has the market pizzaz but to disrupt an established business with the players at hand? Amazing

[RickHaleParker]

I went to Biosphere 2 in 1995 or 1996. I think I read it's been scrapped now.

I know one of the guys that was on the Biosphere 2 management team. He was not one of the people that spent two years inside.

I read somewhere that a good candidate asteroid would have all the gold/platinum/silver we've ever mined in the history of mankind x 1 million, which would upset the global markets, to put it mildly.

Some of the resources may be transported to earth but the bulk of it will be processed and used in space.

It would upset the oligarch's game but most of us are not oligarchs. It not in our interest to maintain the status quo. Besides it been proven time and time again, when cost go down the economy blooms. Just keep economics and finances separate it will become clear. The current US economics model is biased toward serving the finances of the oligarchs but economics and finances are not the same thing. The bulk of us will do just fine without the super rich.

I wonder how the goal of pushing an asteroid into Earth's orbit to mine stacks up in Elon Musk's goals list behind colonizing Mars... seems like it would be, uh, fairly lucrative, and far less dangerous for humans.

There is an argument for colonizing Venus instead of Mars. The atmosphere on Venus is so dense we could float cites in the atmosphere like we float ships in the sea. At 50 km above the surface the pressure and temperatures are like earth. You don't need a pressure suit when you go outside. Just a protective suit and oxygen supply. In other words a little bit more then a scuba suit. At 50 Km there is still enough atmosphere above to give good protection against radiation.

[matthew1]

I know one of the guys that was on the Biosphere 2 management team. He was not one of the people that spent two years inside.

They should have not cheated and not hidden the cheating when whatever it was went wrong. They should have played strict science. My 2¢.

Some of the resources may be transported to earth but the bulk of it will be processed and used in space.

It would upset the oligarch's game but most of us are not oligarchs. It not in our interest to maintain the status quo. Besides it been proven time and time again, when cost go down the economy blooms. Just keep economics and finances separate it will become clear. The current US economics model is biased toward serving the finances of the oligarchs but economics and finances are not the same thing. The bulk of us will do just fine without the super rich.

It's hard to know what would happen. Are there any historical analogs to this?

There is an argument for colonizing Venus instead of Mars. The atmosphere on Venus is so dense we could float cites in the atmosphere like we float ships in the sea. At 50 km above the surface the pressure and temperatures are like earth. You don't need a pressure suit when you go outside. Just a protective suit and oxygen supply. In other words a little bit more then a scuba suit. At 50 Km there is still enough atmosphere above to give good protection against radiation.

Wow, that's 100% crazy information. Sounds like it wouldn't be hard to test its viability... send something out there to try it robotically.

Have you read this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy Robinson goes pretty hard with the science and lays out a pretty realistic/believable series of events of colonizing Mars, at least as far as 1990s science goes (went).

This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2312_(novel) is a more recent book he wrote about colonizing Mercury. I loved all four of these.

[RickHaleParker]

They should have not cheated and not hidden the cheating when whatever it was went wrong. They should have played strict science. My 2¢.

That is the problem with privately funded research. The one paying the bill often has a agenda other then learning.

It's hard to know what would happen. Are there any historical analogs to this?

Henry Ford knew it well. That why he doubled wages and got the price of a car down to where workers could afford one.

[BlackBart]

I heard a radio story recently in which they said the Webb data would be released publicly, unlike almost any other telescope info, to further science and investigation. Pretty cool if so. Not sure how that works with organizations jockeying for position and paying for limited time on it.

[foggydogg]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cartwhee ... 5016154856

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I think I saw this in a dream once. Because Bourbon.

[BlackBart]

Don't mind me, I'm just hangin' out here shootin' really cool photos.

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This caption says - "An enormous mosaic of Stephan's Quintet is the largest image to date from NASA's James Webb Space Telescope, covering about one-fifth of the Moon's diameter. It contains over 150 million pixels and is constructed from almost 1,000 separate image files. The visual grouping of five galaxies was captured by Webb's Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam) and Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI)."

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And it's pretty chilly out here...
https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunc ... sWebb.html

[BlackBart]

Shooting interesting stuff way out there.......................

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66786611